Capitalist Libertarian Freedom Region

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Kyrgz stan wrote:

Hi im new

Hi. Should we call you "new" or "Kyrgz stan?"

Pinochetus wrote:

Money invested in new ventures creates more jobs and productivity than money spent on repairs. You missed the central point of my post that you're quoting, and taking a counterfactual position.

The assumption you are making (that is incorrect) is that everyone has money they arent spending and otherwise wouldnt spend unless some disaster comes in and incentivizes them to spend it. This assumption is incorrect, and its causing you to arrive at the incorrect conclusion that disaster is an economic opportunity.

No, I said there is an economic opportunity available for people to generate money from such a misfortune brought upon others. I never said they wouldn't spend money on anything unless a disaster comes about. My point about the economy running is that the disasters contributes to the cycle of wealth, not that it runs on it.

Pinochetus wrote:

The money spent on repairs is being diverted from other, productive areas it would have been spent on. As an example, if you've ever been broke before and had a surprise bill, say your car needs 2 new tires. That $300 you spend wasn't just sitting around in the bank with no purpose. You probably would have spent it on new shoes, a dentist appointment, a wireless mouse for your laptop, etc. This is all economic activity that does not happen, as the money is diverted to replacing your tires. Economic activity is destroyed and diverted. Their is a reason that we can measure a hurricanes desfruction in economic loss. Replacing something that otherwise would still exist is an economic loss of productivity.

Right here, you are tapping into exactly why I have an issue with them doing that. I know that already, which is why I had said, "Now, I wouldn't say it discourages productivity, since productivity starts off small anyway; but I will say it discourages progression of businesses. Their ability to expand and provide better services had been disrupted by such destruction."

Pinochetus wrote:

I live in Houston, there are still areas of the city that never recovered from Hurricane Harvey in 2017 because they could not afford to, and they probably never will. This is the reality whenever any natural disaster hits. Parts of minneapolos will remain burned down husks because they can't afford to start over. These riots are not economic opportunities for growth, neither are hurricanes, earthquakes, nor wildfires. Destruction is a drain on the economy.

And how are they not, there have been plenty of times disasters have been used to encourage some form of innovation to occur to handle the situation, creating an economic opportunity for others to benefit from. Ever heard of earthquake proof beds. Actually the fact that we build brick exterior houses is because they can handle weather conditions like thunderstorms and floods, without collapsing. Thick cotton clothes have been made to handle harsh winter storms. There have been plenty of times disasters have encouraged innovation that brought forth economic opportunity, insurance is also an example of something innovative that came about after dealing with disasters, creating economic opportunity.

Sometimes I think Landlordia is just making this stuff up as he goes along.

Anyone who doesnt think a Civil War will happen hasnt been paying attention. We're already in a civil war and its only going to get worse. People arent buying record number of guns because of the commie cough

Imren wrote:

Anyone who doesnt think a Civil War will happen hasnt been paying attention. We're already in a civil war and its only going to get worse. People arent buying record number of guns because of the commie cough

And ammo. I don't think there is a 5.56 round for sale within a hundred miles of my place.

However, I did buy some more stock in Olin.

Lol Landlordia, you are hopeless.

I wish I could find more ammo. Havent really gone to the range much since quarantine and only have a few thousand rounds. Dont want to go through them now in case its like this forever. Only 200 hollow points, and 500 green tips.

Pinochetus wrote:

I wish I could find more ammo. Havent really gone to the range much since quarantine and only have a few thousand rounds. Dont want to go through them now in case its like this forever. Only 200 hollow points, and 500 green tips.

That's it? You've been negligent in your stockpiling.

Pinochetus wrote:

Lol Landlordia, you are hopeless.

I wish I could find more ammo. Havent really gone to the range much since quarantine and only have a few thousand rounds. Dont want to go through them now in case its like this forever. Only 200 hollow points, and 500 green tips.

Those are rookie numbers

Yeah they are rookie numbers.

I may end up spending quite a bit to get another 1000 rounds of green tips and a few hundred more rounds of buckshot.

Have basically just been hoping ammo prices would fall during this whole year. Last time I bought was in January.