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The Council Republic of Syndicasia

Jewish Partisan Division wrote:That's a very capitalist way of thinking synd.

Materialist*
Also, I believe I said already that economic relations are the root of all other social relations

The Republic of Wonsen

Jewish Partisan Division wrote:So you seek to force your values onto people who disagree with it?

No, my views are easily understandable because they have been achieved before, in Mao’s China. Look at China now, a beacon of secular and modern ways of thinking, as opposed to the traditional, religion-influenced West.

The Are you Kyrusia of Kreushia

Jewish Partisan Division wrote:Deleting that post as it was horribly phrased, give me five minutes

when post phrase so bad had to deleted it 😹😹😹😹😹😹

The Feminist Empire of Three Galaxies

Wonsen wrote:
No, my views are easily understandable because they have been achieved before, in Mao’s China. Look at China now, a beacon of secular and modern ways of thinking, as opposed to the traditional, religion-influenced West.

China is fascist.

The Unforgiving Cold of Arctic Lands

Three Galaxies wrote:Eradicating culture and religion is a good way of making people less human. That way, ideology is the only thing in life that matters.

"One nation, one people, one leader."

Eradicating religion will not make people less human. It will, in fact, bring them closer together.

"One humanity, one Party, one economy"

The Democratic Arizelist Empire of The Great Furrican Empire

The person below me is the person below me 😎

The Cold Barren Wasteland of Mhaul

Wonsen wrote:Culture is the holding back of societal progress in favor of archaic views. The things you mentioned are innovations only possible by Science, the ultimate enemy of Culture. Plus, when I say “culture” I primarily mean traditional and old ways of thinking.

Define culture, then.
Explain how it's eraticatable, or how that would be beneficial. Or how it somehow opposes science.
I don't think you realize the fact that we wouldn't have science if it wasn't for culture.

Post self-deleted by Arctic Lands.

The Comfy Boi of Tungstan

Arestastland wrote:Religion is fundamental, dude. It wouldn't make any sense to wipe it out.

We do need to wipe out religion—but only temporarily. Clinging to these centuries old religions like Christianity and Islam is leading to more hate and pain in the world (as their outdated opinions are used to justify things like homophobia and transphobia), so if we dismantle the Old Faiths and replace them with new ones, they will be shaped to the world around them.

That shaping means they will most likely be more tolerant and progressive than the Old Faiths, and thus can be a tool to support us rather than oppress us.

The Republic of Wonsen

Three Galaxies wrote:China is fascist.

Debate ideology all you want, but look at the stellar Atheism rates, the rapid development and quality of life improvements. Being held back by institutions from before the Cultural Revolution would have made none of that possible.

The Best Nation in the World of Orcuo

“Everyone that disagrees with me is a fascist; anyway let me continue explaining why Hitler was justified.”

Is basically what a lot of arguments boil down to.

The Council Republic of Syndicasia

Wonsen wrote:Culture is unneeded. It serves as a way to blockade societal progress. While I think that architectural and lingual culture is good, religious and social culture should be dismantled in favor of Progressive Secular ideals.

Culture is reflective of the more important social relations, ie. economic relations of past and present. The social relations we know of as culture will change when economic relations change as economic transformation is the most potent way of bringing about social transformation. Obviously some repression will inevitably happen amidst any great socio-economic transformation, but this is not nearly as consequential as economic transformation for social transformation.

Care for an example or two?

The Catgirls of Altasund

Arctic Lands wrote:Eradicating religion will not make people less human. It will, in fact, bring them closer together.

"One humanity, one Party, one economy"

Eradicating diversity will not make people less human. It will, in fact, bring them closer together.
A boring togetherness, but a togetherness nonetheless.

The Interstellar Commonwealth of Toerana

why do you need any of that stuff when you can good, old, feudalism. Return to the Medieval Period right folks?

The Self-Defense Organization of Jewish Partisan Division

Wonsen wrote:Culture is unneeded. It serves as a way to blockade societal progress. While I think that architectural and lingual culture is good, religious and social culture should be dismantled in favor of Progressive Secular ideals.

That's a form of culture, and your plan is to force onto people who disagree with it. This is just western thinking applied to leftist politics. We cannot rank cultures as it misses the point on why people are in cultures. People join religions because they provide a clear source of morals to follow. However, some may find this aspect of religion too confining or may just disagree with the morals that the religion teaches and will leave. My point is you can dislike aspects of a culture while also admitting that there are aspects of a culture others would like to keep having and not be taken away from an alleged "greater good."

The Best Nation in the World of Orcuo

Toerana wrote:why do you need any of that stuff when you can good, old, feudalism. Return to the Medieval Period right folks?

No. Must go gather. Must return to nomad. Nomad good. Everything else bad.

Colonla

Toerana wrote:why do you need any of that stuff when you can good, old, feudalism. Return to the Medieval Period right folks?

Agreed, literally us here.

A Traditional, First ever Type of Monarchy!

All this New Stuff like Anarchy, Fascism and Democracy are absurd!

The Republic of Wonsen

Altasund wrote:Eradicating diversity will not make people less human. It will, in fact, bring them closer together.
A boring togetherness, but a togetherness nonetheless.

Diversity is good. Nationalism and Traditionalism is what holds it back. I like to call Mao “the father of wokism” in that he dismantled the evil old ways of thinking in favor of diversity, tolerance, and equality.

The Unforgiving Cold of Arctic Lands

Altasund wrote:Eradicating diversity will not make people less human. It will, in fact, bring them closer together.
A boring togetherness, but a togetherness nonetheless.

Eradicating fascism will not make people less human. It will, in fact, bring them closer together.
A boring togetherness, but a togetherness nonetheless.

The Cold Barren Wasteland of Mhaul

Togetherness isn't good.

I'm saying this as a music student, yeah. I know how culture works. Forcing everyone to adapt the same culture will make life boring and empty. It's also physically impossible, but I guess this RMB just lives in willy wonky world anyway.

The Council Republic of Syndicasia

Wonsen wrote:No, my views are easily understandable because they have been achieved before, in Mao’s China. Look at China now, a beacon of secular and modern ways of thinking, as opposed to the traditional, religion-influenced West.

PFFFT the German Democratic Republic, Bulgarian People's Republic, USSR and even post-Mao China can all be considered to be infinitely better at what you brag about Maoist China being (progressive in social and economic relations)

The Interstellar Commonwealth of Toerana

Mhaul wrote:Togetherness isn't good.

I'm saying this as a music student, yeah. I know how culture works. Forcing everyone to adapt the same culture will make life boring and empty. It's also physically impossible, but I guess this RMB just lives in willy wonky world anyway.

do they get free chocolate

The Constitutional Monarchy of Arestastland

Tungstan wrote:We do need to wipe out religion—but only temporarily. Clinging to these centuries old religions like Christianity and Islam is leading to more hate and pain in the world (as their outdated opinions are used to justify things like homophobia and transphobia), so if we dismantle the Old Faiths and replace them with new ones, they will be shaped to the world around them.

That shaping means they will most likely be more tolerant and progressive than the Old Faiths, and thus can be a tool to support us rather than oppress us.

woah, where'd you get those views from?
Instead of destroying old faith , we could rewrite their sacred books to be, a little Neutral.

The Cold Barren Wasteland of Mhaul

Orcuo wrote:No. Must go gather. Must return to nomad. Nomad good. Everything else bad.

Thing is...
Nomads were diverse. Very cultural, and extremely traditional. How else would they communicate?

The Republic of Wonsen

Jewish Partisan Division wrote:That's a form of culture, and your plan is to force onto people who disagree with it. This is just western thinking applied to leftist politics. We cannot rank cultures as it misses the point on why people are in cultures. People join religions because they provide a clear source of morals to follow. However, some may find this aspect of religion too confining or may just disagree with the morals that the religion teaches and will leave. My point is you can dislike aspects of a culture while also admitting that there are aspects of a culture others would like to keep having and not be taken away from an alleged "greater good."

I like cultures. I dislike “culture”, the word that is used as an umbrella term by Maoists to mean religion and traditional societal structures. I would’ve used a different word is “culture” wasn’t already established.

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