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Oh my god it is so hard to find a name wrote:

I agree with this stranger

Please don't double post!

Remember this is an opinion. I think what’s happening with the protests has gone a little too far. What the people are protesting for is justified but the problem is that a lot of people are opportunists so they use this time to loot stores also the person that did this horrible crime is fired from his job as a police officer and is charged with third-degree murder so normally the protests would be over what do people do use this opportunity route stores are still doing it. This is my opinion on what’s happening with the riots if you have a different opinion please quote me. Ps sorry about this random post

Thalassia founder wrote:

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S2:
"(3) Both parties agree that the deployment of military forces on opposing sides, in a region that is not the home region nor possession of the other is not a violation of this treaty."
So we don't fight eachother except when we are allowed to fight eachother outside of each others controlled regions?
EDIT: - Before Wym gives me a text wall about how common this clause is in other agreements, I am aware of this, but it would take a drastic change of both Thalassian and Lazerene Military policy to make this a useful clause, although multiple parties have already explained the purpose of the clause.
S2"
"(2) Both parties pledge to not knowingly conspire to or raid or otherwise attack....."
If I am not mistaken, this is not correct English. I would have expected Legislation to be proof read before a discussion period is opened.
S5:
"(1) Both parties recognize the close relationship and friendship between them."
Surely this should be the preamble, I don't see how an entire clause is necessary when he Preamble states, "Desiring friendship between Lazarus and Thalassia, both parties hereby ratify this treaty."
Instead of the preamble stating that we "desire" friendship, it should clearly state that the purpose of this treaty is friendship.
S3:
If we are going to number the sub sections of section 5, it should at least be consistent and have done within Section 3 as well.

Sections 3 and 4 could be merged into "Cooperation", have seperate sections which only contain 1 clause each doesn't make a massive amount of sense to me when they could be relatively easily located in the same section.

Overall, I think it could be written much better, and I believe there has been a lack of care that went into the drafting process, leading to the multiple simple errors in the treaty itself.

The nordic democracy wrote:

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I agree with you on many points, especially the part regarding opportunists using this to loot. But I do not believe this to be the sole reason they have persisted.

I believe the other reason protests have continued is that this has been an issue far too many times in the states. Not only that but while the murderer was charged, the other officers who stood by and allowed that to happen were not despite effectively being accessories.

Sho wrote:

I agree with you on many points, especially the part regarding opportunists using this to loot. But I do not believe this to be the sole reason they have persisted.

I believe the other reason protests have continued is that this has been an issue far too many times in the states. Not only that but while the murderer was charged, the other officers who stood by and allowed that to happen were not despite effectively being accessories.

I didn’t really know the starting incident really well but I realize that a lot of bad things are happening not the protesters that are causing it it’s the opportunists I heard that in Atlanta that they burn down police stations.

Sho wrote:

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It is important to note that this is far from the first police-brutality related riot (they date back the Civil Rights Era). Even this pattern of internal destruction and widespread looting isn't new. The only particularly unique things about this set of riots are:
1. How widespread they are
2. The timing

If this was some new, final act like some people on the internet are pushing (not that anyone here is), there'd be way more deaths. Thus far, 8 people have been killed and ~1700 arrested in this set of riots. Compare this to the 1992 LA riots, in which 63 were killed, 2,383 were injured, and 12,111 were arrested.
In my cynical opinion, this set of riots will change nothing. The story will be dead within a weak of the protests ending.

Well, the dispatch is more about fighting the police that use too much force and hence the title; brutality. It's also designed to help people affected by the protests!

Kalderisara wrote:

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It’s a vicious cycle, unfortunately.

These protests probably won’t change anything long term

The nordic democracy wrote:

These protests probably won’t change anything long term

- British Redcoats, 1776

I'm just saying, protests do work!

Badivermeraed wrote:

- British Redcoats, 1776

I'm just saying, protests do work!

What I’m saying is that protests have looters that are kind of related to them making their Cause unpopular that’s why I think they won’t have a long-term effect but I think the police should have more careful picking when looking for officers we don’t want this kind of incident to happen again we want to make sure our country is free from racial violence god bless America

The nordic democracy wrote:

What I’m saying is that protests have looters that are kind of related to them making their Cause unpopular that’s why I think they won’t have a long-term effect

My dear lad, three words:

Boston tea party

You do have a point history tends to repeat itself

The nordic democracy wrote:

I am near were Chicago is and a lot of the Big stores near me has been looted and they’re planning on looting a Store near me

Woah there. No triple posting. It's fine to express your opinions and all, but please continue to follow the rmb rules. You can edit your previous posts. Thanks!

Badivermeraed wrote:

My dear lad, three words:

Boston tea party

The Patriots only destroyed the thing related to what they were protesting. They didn't go around burning homes and stores, they didn't even burn the ship. They destroyed the tea and that was all.
It would be comparable if the rioters/protestors only attacked police stations and related things.

Welcome to the real, ugly world of the 21st Century, folks.

Or, for that matter, the world has been really ugly since we started killing people. (Which is, since forever)

Edit: I sound like a pessimist, sorry.

It's not really pessimistic though, people have been slaughtering each other since the beginning of the human race. Hell, even animals do that. It's nature.

got on the trend of Pride Flags as well

I know I haven't been very active, but I don't want to stay silent on this, and I hope others also do not stay silent. I'm in the United States right now, and I am absolutely heart broken by the racism that has been in the spotlight this past week. I'm heart broken by the continued murder of Black men, women, and children. And I'm heart broken and angered by the system that refuses to change. So I want to use this platform to share my (unorganized) thoughts on this.

These protests are about a system that does not respect Black lives. It's about a country where people armed with guns (and brandishing them in an extremely threatening and intimidating manner) protesting public health, with posters of Nazi slogans and with confederate flags are protected by the police, yet people peacefully protesting a violent racist system are mowed down by police cars, sprayed with tear gas, and infiltrated with undercover police officers to instigate violence.

Colin Kaepernick was vilified and made public enemy #1 because he peacefully protested police brutality. Peaceful protest isn't respected by many of the same people that are enraged by the looting.There exists two different Americas - one that white people live in, designed for them. And the other that has been created by white people for minorities, one that doesn't respect their lives, especially not those of Black Americans.

One of the murders that is being responded to with these protests is that of Breonna Taylor. In Louisville Kentucky, Breonna Taylor was killed in her own house. When the police used a battering ram to enter her house, her boyfriend, licensed to have a gun, used it for self-defense of the couple (as armed men had just broken into the house unidentified in the middle of the night). The police officers shot Breonna 8 times. Breonna Taylor was an EMT, and had wanted to become a nurse, buy a house and start a family, and have a career in health care. There are countless other stories like this, and police continue to be held unaccountable.

Let's not forget that the institution of police in the south was born from a force created to catch run-away enslaved people. They evolved to enforce segregation and the sharecropping system which continued to exploit Black citizens, and eventually Jim Crow. With many officers having connections to the KKK, they failed to protect Black Americans, and perpetuated (and still perpetuate) a system of oppression. To call the police a racist institution is not only appropriate considering its history and its present day track record and failure to change, but is necessary to have conversations that can lead to change. In 2006, the FBI found that white supremacist groups were infiltrating local police forces across the country to protect other white officers and to antagonize communities of color.

Meanwhile, there are white people that wield their deadly privilege by calling the police on Black Americans sitting in Starbucks or bird-watching in Central Park (look up Amy Cooper). Don't try to deny that the police protects and empowers white racism while continuing the murders of Black Americans, white people in America already know this and use it to their advantage.

For those of you who may be thinking of saying this I'm not saying that all cops are bad. But I am saying that many cops are bad, and are part of an institution that has failed to change and continues to excuse racist and unfit officers and kill Black Americans without cause.

So I would like to make a few things clear to those who may find it unclear.

1. Much of the violence and looting is initiated by undercover white supremacists (some of them cops) looking to create violence and confusion, antagonize these protests, and excuse the ensuing use of excessive force by the police.
2. The police in America is a deadly institution - there's no denying this - one that refuses to change It is killer institutional racism.
3. These protests are 100% justified and 100% necessary. The anger against the system is 100% justified. Things haven't changed, but they need to. These protests aren't trivial, and should not be ignored, but spotlighted in positive, non antagonistic ways. And their message cannot sputter out to only those threatened by police brutality. If you are in a position of privilege, use it to support movements against police brutality, institutional racism, and movements like BlackLivesMatter and CampaignZero.
4. These protests will have consequences for those protesting and for Black people in America. There will be charges for people who were defending themselves against unprovoked police brutality. There already has been unprovoked violence by police against protesters. Black people in America will be punished politically by the right and the political arms of white supremacy in America, and racist white people will direct their outrage at being confronted with the murder of Black people that they allow to happen, and they will direct it through systems built for white people. So don't sit by as racist and complacent antagonize those who a) are exhausting avenues trying to stop the murder of Black people in America and b) very much understand the risk that they are taking. Speak up.

NS is an important platform, and I think we should 100% have the discussion. I think we should have it where it will reach the most people, and I think that is on the RMB. If you think that this isn't the type of thing that you should have to see on the RMB, then wake up and recognize the privilege you have for this to be an issue you can ignore, or pick and choose when to be confronted with it.

Thank you to Sho, Dekks, Warden Nakari, Qvait, Badivermeraed and Prince reece island for working and promoting the dispatch. Please donate to one of the groups listed in it if you are able. Anything contributes, and it takes less than two minutes.

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New Camelot of Avalonia wrote:

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While I completely agree with it, I'd appreciate it if you would spoiler the text. And, do you like my new flag? I painted it, this painting is an achievement.
P.S.- I kind of shudder to think what kind of a world we are living in right now. Will this be the world that future generations would come to know?

Nationific wrote:

While I completely agree with it, I'd appreciate it if you would spoiler the text. And, do you like my new flag? I painted it, this painting is an achievement.
P.S.- I kind of shudder to think what kind of a world we are living in right now. Will this be the world that future generations would come to know?

Hopefully not, if we take initiative and change the world.