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Yay I got my Democratic Socialist rating back lol

Andusre wrote:

cri cri libtard

Time to suppress

I love all of this activity, especially considering it's a Monday! :)

Titanne wrote:

Hello citizens of Thaecia. I am sad to announce that I hereby resign as Chairman of the Senate. I will still continue my duties as a Senator, but can no longer fulfill my duties as chairman.

Andusre
Cerdenia
Xernon

I endorse Developing World as the new chairman of the Senate.

Wait so is Developing World automatically the new chairman or does the ruling coalition take another vote?

Titanne wrote:

Hello citizens of Thaecia. I am sad to announce that I hereby resign as Chairman of the Senate. I will still continue my duties as a Senator, but can no longer fulfill my duties as chairman.

Andusre
Cerdenia
Xernon

I endorse Developing World as the new chairman of the Senate.

This is deeply saddening, but I respect your choice to resign. Developing World will be your replacement.

Titanne wrote:

Hello citizens of Thaecia. I am sad to announce that I hereby resign as Chairman of the Senate. I will still continue my duties as a Senator, but can no longer fulfill my duties as chairman.

Andusre
Cerdenia
Xernon

I endorse Developing World as the new chairman of the Senate.

Thank you for your service as Chairman, Titanne, and I look forward to your continued service as a Senator. While I am at it, Congrats to Developing World on his new role!

Thank you all for your continued support, I just couldn’t keep up in the capacity that was involved in chairmanship.

wtf no one announced me :)))

Developing World wrote:

wtf no one announced me :)))

We still love you <3

When the people in the Senate don't value your ideals of the regulation of the cheese and dairy industry in order to create a better product for the consumer 😢

The marconian state wrote:

When the people in the Senate don't value your ideals of the regulation of the cheese and dairy industry in order to create a better product for the consumer 😢

I loved it <3

For the record, there is literally no harm in passing H.B. 002. Yes it's an RP bill and if you're so disorganized in the senate, you'd want to move onto more pressing matters, but you're the one who decided to put it to vote, so don't blame it on the bill for not being serious enough. You could've kept it on the backburner for longer if you wanted, but that doesn't change the fact that it does not negatively affect anything whatsoever.

Korsinia wrote:

I loved it <3

<3

The marconian state wrote:

For the record, there is literally no harm in passing H.B. 002. Yes it's an RP bill and if you're so disorganized in the senate, you'd want to move onto more pressing matters, but you're the one who decided to put it to vote, so don't blame it on the bill for not being serious enough. You could've kept it on the backburner for longer if you wanted, but that doesn't change the fact that it does not negatively affect anything whatsoever.
<3

Stop the disorganisment thing because we just started to organise, and I just thought there should be a better time for RP bills to be written then now, when our region is deciding its future

Hello everyone. Just joined Thaecia today!! How's everyone doing?

Centrum terrae wrote:

Hello everyone. Just joined Thaecia today!! How's everyone doing?

Apart from the argument over dairy viscosity (that's what the argument's about, right?), we're great! Glad to have you!

Developing World wrote:

Stop the disorganisment thing because we just started to organise, and I just thought there should be a better time for RP bills to be written then now, when our region is deciding its future

I wrote that bill almost 2 months ago when things weren't in as much of a tizzy as they are now, as a practice in writing legislation and in order to bring some life and comedy into the House. If the Senate has only just gotten to it now, then yeah, I'd say you're still disorganized in the process of trying to organize. Again, voting "nay" on the bill just because there needs to be a so-called "better time" for it is fallacious - it's up to vote, it's decently written (if in the wrong format before we established the current format of preambles and articles and whatnot...), and it's something to talk about and have a little culture for in the region. I'm sure the Culture Minister New torask would agree with that general idea; that yes, there are more important matters at hand to be attended to, but because it's up for vote, it would be beneficial for the region, if only in the people's minds and not for any real structure except for that which is composed by the CYA.

Developing World wrote:

and I just thought there should be a better time for RP bills to be written then now, when our region is deciding its future

And again, if you thought there should be a better time for it, why did you put it up for vote so soon? You practically steamrolled it right in, with only about 2 hours of debate time and no amendment time.

If any of you guys have songs for the song contest (dispatch is in Thaecia's factbook entry), don't hesitate to let me know!
:)

The marconian state wrote:

And again, if you thought there should be a better time for it, why did you put it up for vote so soon? You practically steamrolled it right in, with only about 2 hours of debate time and no amendment time.

I put it to a vote as a precedent about RP bills.

The marconian state wrote:

I wrote that bill almost 2 months ago when things weren't in as much of a tizzy as they are now, as a practice in writing legislation and in order to bring some life and comedy into the House. If the Senate has only just gotten to it now, then yeah, I'd say you're still disorganized in the process of trying to organize. Again, voting "nay" on the bill just because there needs to be a so-called "better time" for it is fallacious - it's up to vote, it's decently written (if in the wrong format before we established the current format of preambles and articles and whatnot...), and it's something to talk about and have a little culture for in the region. I'm sure the Culture Minister New torask would agree with that general idea; that yes, there are more important matters at hand to be attended to, but because it's up for vote, it would be beneficial for the region, if only in the people's minds and not for any real structure except for that which is composed by the CYA.

Anyways the overall idea is ok and it was not a critique of you or your bill. It was a critique of RP bills in general

Developing World wrote:

I put it to a vote as a precedent about RP bills.

Developing World wrote:

Anyways the overall idea is ok and it was not a critique of you or your bill. It was a critique of RP bills in general

A critique? A precedent about RP bills?? Mr. Senator, what do you think we're gonna do when we actually get everything sorted - ratify a constitution, fix all our systemic issues, add 12 more executive roles appointed by the Prime Minister to oversee various faculties of the region, and so on and so forth? Mind you, the region will live a very long and prosperous life, but I don't know if the same will be said about our legislative branch if we don't continue to find content to pass in the interest of the region. What you've done as your new stint as Senate Chairman so far is a very selfish act in not only going against your own party member's bill with no good reason in the interest of the region to, but also to attempt to stifle RP bills in the future.

And by the way, precedent doesn't go so far in legislative branches like it does in the judiciary. Your overall hope of attempting to stifle creativity and interest in legislative politics for the region will do nothing in the long run, especially if and when you're no longer Chairman.

The marconian state wrote:

A critique? A precedent about RP bills?? Mr. Senator, what do you think we're gonna do when we actually get everything sorted - ratify a constitution, fix all our systemic issues, add 12 more executive roles appointed by the Prime Minister to oversee various faculties of the region, and so on and so forth? Mind you, the region will live a very long and prosperous life, but I don't know if the same will be said about our legislative branch if we don't continue to find content to pass in the interest of the region. What you've done as your new stint as Senate Chairman so far is a very selfish act in not only going against your own party member's bill with no good reason in the interest of the region to, but also to attempt to stifle RP bills in the future.

And by the way, precedent doesn't go so far in legislative branches like it does in the judiciary. Your overall hope of attempting to stifle creativity and interest in legislative politics for the region will do nothing in the long run, especially if and when you're no longer Chairman.

This is sad. Let's see what have I done that is the worst crime of humanity and a "very selfish act": I put your bill to debate, which was waiting for a lot of time, nobody debates, I put it to vote and I vote nay for some whatever reasons I have. WOW! I should be arrested immedeatly! And about that, precedent might not be the best word, I meant to say to discourage their writing for a period of time. If you proposed this bill some months later, I would definetly support it. Just the moment is pretty tricky especially that the Senate lost a lot of time doing nothing and has only started activity for a week now. I know my wording choice is pretty poor, my english is really bad, but I hope you get the point now

Developing World wrote:

This is sad. Let's see what have I done that is the worst crime of humanity and a "very selfish act": I put your bill to debate, which was waiting for a lot of time, nobody debates, I put it to vote and I vote nay for some whatever reasons I have. WOW! I should be arrested immedeatly! And about that, precedent might not be the best word, I meant to say to discourage their writing for a period of time. If you proposed this bill some months later, I would definetly support it. Just the moment is pretty tricky especially that the Senate lost a lot of time doing nothing and has only started activity for a week now. I know my wording choice is pretty poor, my english is really bad, but I hope you get the point now

You wanna know what precedent is, Mr. Chairman? Acts like these, where you introduce a bill you don't think is a good time for yet, give it 3 hours of debate (as opposed to Rayekka's consistent track record of at least 12-24 hours of regular debate time, if not more at the beginning when we were considering the PM's appointees), and attempt to steamroll it through, despite the fact you could've first introduced legislation you thought was more urgent. That's the precedent you're setting for your reign as Senate Chairman, one that'll have you resented by the other members of Congress for so gallantly paying disrespect to a bill with merit.

Again, you can't discourage the writing of bills just because there's the expectation of them not being passed or looked at by the Senate. Seeing as every bill only needs one sponsor, I could make a point of that and write a few more RP bills just to prove that, but I'm not in the interest of clogging up the docket when we do have important matters to attend to. Now I'm sure you're at a loss for what the Senate could be doing, considering your predecessor rushed through bills in the same manner as you have, but let's consider the fact that the Senate still hasn't done its constitutional duty of appointing Justices to the High Court.

This is, of course, all irrelevant to the fact that your situation in the Senate is not a good reason to steamroll and vote "nay" on a bill just because you find its presence unhelping to fixing your situation. The bill is not the cause of the Senate's lost time, nor is it the cause of your disorganization, and it is especially not detrimental to fixing the situation in the Senate; no, that all rests on the Senate itself, of which you are the new Chairman. I don't mind the nay vote, I mind the obtuse reasoning behind it. Votes deserve to be backed up with good reasoning; that's what the citizens who voted you in deserve.

No worries on your English though, I'm not chewing you out on that.