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The Grand republic of Laransa

Urukian wrote:It's a great thing we don't accept foreign investment and never have, the extent of our trade was selling resources and products.

VIC accepts foreign investments though. Also do you think this will make people want to do business with you? You will be seen as less trustworthy.

Also, the debt will still exist which will increase interest rates, so either way, you're going to pay more

The Daldroi Led Coalition of Urukian

Laransa wrote:VIC accepts foreign investments though. Also do you think this will make people want to do business with you? You will be seen as less trustworthy.

Also, the debt will still exist which will increase interest rates, so either way, you're going to pay more

I aint paiyng anyone dude.

The Grand republic of Laransa

Urukian wrote:I aint paiyng anyone dude.

So you will default on your debt?

The Daldroi Led Coalition of Urukian

Laransa wrote:So you will default on your debt?

I don't have any? Creating fake debt doesen't affect me.

The Grand republic of Laransa

Urukian wrote:I don't have any? Creating fake debt doesen't affect me.

...you do have debt, every nation has debt.

Also its not debt, you will need to pay the fines eventually

The Daldroi Led Coalition of Urukian

Laransa wrote:...you do have debt, every nation has debt.

Also its not debt, you will need to pay the fines eventually

You can't just say "fines" and create debt. I don't recognize it, so it has no value and does not exist. It's imaginary. Poof. It's gone.

No, since we don't lend or borrow capital nor accept foreign investment we do not have debt.

The Holy Crowned Republic of Holy papal states

Laransa wrote:So you will default on your debt?

Gng you don’t control all debt 😭 also like you should so much debt then. With all your projects. Also ViC would collapse economy’s if you wanted to actually cause damage to them.

The Grand republic of Laransa

Urukian wrote:You can't just say "fines" and create debt. I don't recognize it, so it has no value and does not exist. It's imaginary. Poof. It's gone.

No, since we don't lend or borrow capital nor accept foreign investment we do not have debt.

Yes you do, especially with this new war, which as I have proved many times that it's expensive. Also, it's debt because you refuse to pay the fines, you still owe the money. You can't just not recognise it.

Holy papal states wrote:Gng you don’t control all debt 😭 also like you should so much debt then. With all your projects. Also ViC would collapse economy’s if you wanted to actually cause damage to them.

I have a lot of income, to tell you, so yes, while I do have debt, it's manageable also I have already addressed the GIF debt in another post.

The Daldroi Led Coalition of Urukian

Laransa wrote:Yes you do, especially with this new war, which as I have proved many times that it's expensive. Also, it's debt because you refuse to pay the fines, you still owe the money. You can't just not recognise it.

I have a lot of income, to tell you, so yes, while I do have debt, it's manageable also I have already addressed the GIF debt in another post.

Yo dude are you dumb? Look, I say you have 10 trillion in fines, bam, is that debt now?

Also, yes war is expensive, but our society is made for it, and we haven’t fought one in 20 years.

The Daldroi Led Coalition of Urukian

I never thought i’d see the day where a nation with a billion people to upkeep with socialist works and benefits, that has taught multiple wars in recent memory including a devastating civil one and exhausting their entire nuclear arsenal, that has a space fleet 40% the size of 2 SPACE nations combined that are entirely dedicated to their fleets, along with a 15 million strong army of all personnel that need to be paid, would come after an intentionally low upkeep, minimal population, guild system society with barely a monetary concept for their finances.

The Grand republic of Laransa

Urukian wrote:Yo dude are you dumb? Look, I say you have 10 trillion in fines, bam, is that debt now?

Also, yes war is expensive, but our society is made for it, and we haven’t fought one in 20 years.

Not eligible since I haven't done anything currently, you cannot just fine me for any random thing.

Also, fair enough, it isn't debt, but you still owe that money in fines. Wether you pay it or not.

OOC: also, there is a case where a nation tries to fine an organisation or another nation a ridiculous amount of money, which is of course insane, like no, you can't find someone one quadrillion (insert currency) fines are a lot more reasonable

The international community is fining you due to orbital bombardment, use of space weapons that have ruptured the ear drums of millions and for releasing super human soldiers that can crush soldiers but haven't passed a psychological test to the battlefield

OOC: Spartan society was also militaristic, it too had many flaws.

Urukian wrote:I never thought i’d see the day where a nation with a billion people to upkeep with socialist works and benefits, that has taught multiple wars in recent memory including a devastating civil one and exhausting their entire nuclear arsenal, that has a space fleet 40% the size of 2 SPACE nations combined that are entirely dedicated to their fleets, along with a 15 million strong army of all personnel that need to be paid, would come after an intentionally low upkeep, minimal population, guild system society with barely a monetary concept for their finances.

That 1.2 billion population pays taxes you know? Also there aren't any space nations you know? I have less spaceships than you do. The devastating civil war was decades ago. It would suprise you to know that managing your resources well and limiting corruption would allow you to afford many things. I thought that we already explained how I manage everything in my nation in a previous post.

OOC: (Also, the manpower numbers are decided by Dakea, not me silly) ldo this nation that had an intentionally low upkeep and minimal population you are referencing (yourself) is doing unimaginable war crimes

The Holy Crowned Republic of Holy papal states

Laransa wrote:Not eligible since I haven't done anything currently, you cannot just fine me for any random thing.

Also, fair enough, it isn't debt, but you still owe that money in fines. Wether you pay it or not.

OOC: also, there is a case where a nation tries to fine an organisation or another nation a ridiculous amount of money, which is of course insane, like no, you can't find someone one quadrillion (insert currency) fines are a lot more reasonable

The international community is fining you due to orbital bombardment, use of space weapons that have ruptured the ear drums of millions and for releasing super human soldiers that can crush soldiers but haven't passed a psychological test to the battlefield

OOC: Spartan society was also militaristic, it too had many flaws.

That 1.2 billion population pays taxes you know? Also there aren't any space nations you know? I have less spaceships than you do. The devastating civil war was decades ago. It would suprise you to know that managing your resources well and limiting corruption would allow you to afford many things. I thought that we already explained how I manage everything in my nation in a previous post.

OOC: (Also, the manpower numbers are decided by Dakea, not me silly) ldo this nation that had an intentionally low upkeep and minimal population you are referencing (yourself) is doing unimaginable war crimes

What “international community” gng it’s just you. Also do that and your space routes will be seized, and your holdings in the New Vatican stock exchange will be transferred to us. Also you claim even if I fix the issue they will commit war crimes.
A. No they go back to semi normal mentality.
B. Everybody does, this isn’t just an issue portaing to me.

Lastly, stand down please.

Also I’m fricken rich

The Grand republic of Laransa

Holy papal states wrote:What “international community” gng it’s just you. Also do that and your space routes will be seized, and your holdings in the New Vatican stock exchange will be transferred to us. Also you claim even if I fix the issue they will commit war crimes.
A. No they go back to semi normal mentality.
B. Everybody does, this isn’t just an issue portaing to me.

Lastly, stand down please.

Also I’m fricken rich

I'm sure peo would support this

Also you wouldn't dare seize any space routes, would you? Don't you already have so much to deal with? Also fix those superhuman soldiers psychological problems first before you even think about sending them to the battlefield, I said they could commit war crimes because they did not pass a simple psychological test

Also your economy has been in a state of war for a while, so the statement that you're rich can't really stand in my opinion

The People's Republic of Dakea

Update delayed again (I have too much work irl)

The Federal Republic of Alrida

Laransa wrote:I'm sure peo would support this

Also you wouldn't dare seize any space routes, would you? Don't you already have so much to deal with? Also fix those superhuman soldiers psychological problems first before you even think about sending them to the battlefield, I said they could commit war crimes because they did not pass a simple psychological test

Also your economy has been in a state of war for a while, so the statement that you're rich can't really stand in my opinion

I have a question how did those soldiers get their mental state to be this bad?

The Daldroi Led Coalition of Urukian

Laransa wrote:Not eligible since I haven't done anything currently, you cannot just fine me for any random thing.

Also, fair enough, it isn't debt, but you still owe that money in fines. Wether you pay it or not.

OOC: also, there is a case where a nation tries to fine an organisation or another nation a ridiculous amount of money, which is of course insane, like no, you can't find someone one quadrillion (insert currency) fines are a lot more reasonable

The international community is fining you due to orbital bombardment, use of space weapons that have ruptured the ear drums of millions and for releasing super human soldiers that can crush soldiers but haven't passed a psychological test to the battlefield

OOC: Spartan society was also militaristic, it too had many flaws.

That 1.2 billion population pays taxes you know? Also there aren't any space nations you know? I have less spaceships than you do. The devastating civil war was decades ago. It would suprise you to know that managing your resources well and limiting corruption would allow you to afford many things. I thought that we already explained how I manage everything in my nation in a previous post.

OOC: (Also, the manpower numbers are decided by Dakea, not me silly) ldo this nation that had an intentionally low upkeep and minimal population you are referencing (yourself) is doing unimaginable war crimes

Okay. I owe it. I'm not paying it, but say what you wish, I can't stop you from thinking I owe you.

You have had more corruption scandals than me, 1>0.

Yes, but the average citizen is a fiscal detractor, as proven by your GDP PC.

The Grand republic of Laransa

Urukian wrote:Okay. I owe it. I'm not paying it, but say what you wish, I can't stop you from thinking I owe you.

You have had more corruption scandals than me, 1>0.

Yes, but the average citizen is a fiscal detractor, as proven by your GDP PC.

Just because we don't know any SI corruption scandals doesn't mean they don't exist. Also after that scandal we introduced more anti corruption laws which wouldn't have been introduced if there was a lot of corruption

The Grand republic of Laransa

Alrida wrote:I have a question how did those soldiers get their mental state to be this bad?

OOC: I genuinely don't know, but it can't have been ethical

The Holy Crowned Republic of Holy papal states

Laransa wrote:I'm sure peo would support this

Also you wouldn't dare seize any space routes, would you? Don't you already have so much to deal with? Also fix those superhuman soldiers psychological problems first before you even think about sending them to the battlefield, I said they could commit war crimes because they did not pass a simple psychological test

Also your economy has been in a state of war for a while, so the statement that you're rich can't really stand in my opinion

So has yours. My economy has been saving up. Yours hasn’t.

Laransa wrote:OOC: I genuinely don't know, but it can't have been ethical

Willing test subjects btw

The Daldroi Led Coalition of Urukian

Laransa wrote:Just because we don't know any SI corruption scandals doesn't mean they don't exist. Also after that scandal we introduced more anti corruption laws which wouldn't have been introduced if there was a lot of corruption

Hypotheticalmaxxing

Laransa wrote:I'm sure peo would support this

Also you wouldn't dare seize any space routes, would you? Don't you already have so much to deal with? Also fix those superhuman soldiers psychological problems first before you even think about sending them to the battlefield, I said they could commit war crimes because they did not pass a simple psychological test

Also your economy has been in a state of war for a while, so the statement that you're rich can't really stand in my opinion

And yes, we would seize space routes, notl ike you could do anything about it.

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