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National california

Holts wrote:I read about market socialism it's cool and probably the most acceptable form this day and age.

Happy birthday :)

Khemedite

The left wing federation wrote:Gorbachev went full on capitalist, he didn't even bother with reforming socialism. I gotta admit he was probably one of, if not the, worst Soviet politicians who ever lived. Sure, Glasnost was fine and whatnot but Perestroika destroyed the Soviet economy, sent the cost of living sky high and created a clear division between the working class and rich oligarchs that continues to this day.

He could have, I dunno, stopped at Glasnost? There is this thing called democratic socialism that would have worked out much better, but he instead crumbled into western consumerist pressure and let the Soviet Union collapse into authoritarian capitalist oligarch states.

If Gorbachev ruled for longer he'd probably do better. Though the thugs of Yeltsin destroyed the USSR. Gorbachev, in my opinion at least, the most democratic soviet leader.

Sauros, The left wing federation, and Anciska

Holts

National california wrote:Happy birthday :)

Eh

Shlok mimi didi baba

Happy birthday

Shlok mimi didi baba

I’m new here

Fazo zeolia

howdy
welcome to the assembly

National california

Holts wrote:Eh

Sorry my damn computer keeps quoting the wrong one. Meant to quote this

Porde wrote:It is my b-day, and I now turn 15.

The left wing federation, The marhaenists of the southeast, and Remandia

The 30 Years of Jurassic Park of Sauros

The left wing federation wrote:Gorbachev went full on capitalist, he didn't even bother with reforming socialism. I gotta admit he was probably one of, if not the, worst Soviet politicians who ever lived. Sure, Glasnost was fine and whatnot but Perestroika destroyed the Soviet economy, sent the cost of living sky high and created a clear division between the working class and rich oligarchs that continues to this day.

He could have, I dunno, stopped at Glasnost? There is this thing called democratic socialism that would have worked out much better, but he instead conformed to western consumerist pressure and let the Soviet Union collapse into authoritarian capitalist oligarch states.

Glasnost was problematic but had the right idea. The biggest issue? It shouldn't have liquidated the CPSU, which was just plain stupid in retrospect.

The left wing federation, The marhaenists of the southeast, American Soviet Confederation, Anciska, and 1 otherBikini bottom-squidward trap house

National california

A general strike has developed in Caligrad City:

OCCUPATION STRIKE INITIATIVE

by National california

NOTING the lack of personal, civil and political freedom upheld by the tyrannical regime of Francisco Rabata and the National Communist Party,

REALIZING that said lack of freedom will always lead to capitalistic degeneracy,

KNOWING that the only true way to the Workingman's freedom is through the worker himself, and no Red Bureaucracy,

ACKNOWLEDGING the swift and undeniable devolution of California into a State Capitalist Regime,

THE CALIGRAD SYNDICATE OF WORKERS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE LIBERTARIAN SOCIALIST MILITIA HEREBY DECLARES THE OCCUPATION OF CALIGRAD CITY TO BE PUT UNDER DIRECT WORKER CONTROL

An Ultimatum with the following conditions will be the only way to advert worker revolt. Should the State comply with the following demands, the occupation will end. If not, the worker will show his might:

1. The devolution of cities into worker-controlled syndicates

2. The establishment of a National Union of Labor to protect worker rights

3. The immediate transfer of all government and private assets into the hands of the national Union of Labor

4. The destruction of a centralized economy in favor of a Confederation of Syndicates or Unions

5. The establishment of Worker Oversight Committees and direct democracy in all Unions and Syndicates

6. The destruction of the position of Premier in favor of a Syndicate Congress of Representatives that will act as a limited power minarchist state.

7. The establishment of measures to protect civil, political and speech rights.

8. The ability for all citizens to own firearms.

9. The destruction of the federal military in favor of Worker Militias.

10. The ability for any able citizen to enlist in said militias, but no conscription required.

IF SAID DEMANDS ARE NOT MET TO ESTABLISH A SOCIETY OF LIBERTY FOR THE WORKER, THE WORKER WILL NOT COMPLY FOR WORK!

Remember Comrades,

ˇEl socialismo será libre o no será en absoluto!

Read dispatch

The Rosy Red Republics of Gloucester City

National california wrote:Sorry my damn computer keeps quoting the wrong one. Meant to quote this

My old computer used to do that. It was annoying of deleting the quotes part of the text then quoting a different thing

Sauros and The marhaenists of the southeast

Remandia

If anyone doesn't know Holts is my alt :)

The federation of Apricot and The marhaenists of the southeast

National california

Gloucester City wrote:My old computer used to do that. It was annoying of deleting the quotes part of the text then quoting a different thing

Yeah it sucks

Sauros and The marhaenists of the southeast

The City-states of The federation of Apricot

Holts wrote:Eh

Happy Birthday

The marhaenists of the southeast

Holts wrote:I read about market socialism it's cool and probably the most acceptable form this day and age.

Shumi wrote:in your opinion, no?
the free market is the body of capitalism lol
market socialism is nothing more than a liberal anti-communist concept to cope with learning that socialism is the way forward yet being held back by the leash of western propaganda.

Personally, I think the west hates socialism more than they hate planned economy, they would rather see a country that's planned economy corporatist rather than market socialist, however I also agree on the part that market socialism's effectiveness are often times repeated by liberals who prefers idealism rather than materialism, and can be a hindrance for entering into class theories and Marxism.

Basically, no matter what socialist ideology you choose, it is generally a good idea to read a little bit of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc before getting into the theory of your preferred ideology. (With the emphasis on also learning the theory of your preferred ideology due to how often people preferred an ideology due to taking someone else's word for it)

TL;DR : Don't choose an ideology just because you've heard it from someone or because of the Aesthetics, read some theories first

Porde wrote:It is my b-day, and I now turn 15.

Hbd Comrade!

Eloren, The left wing federation, Khemedite, The Community of Cascadia, and 5 othersAmerican Soviet Confederation, Anciska, Bikini bottom-squidward trap house, Holts, and Shumi

The Dictatorship of Hope Action and Change

Porde wrote:It is my b-day, and I now turn 15.

Excellent time of life! Make many happy memories!

Khemedite

Porde wrote:It is my b-day, and I now turn 15.

Happy Birthday!

The Republic of The Grand Union Kingdom

General Assembly Announcement: Ambassador Act Amendment (Requested Dismissal) has now moved to vote within the General Assembly. All discussion by the public has been noted and will be taken into account by Members of the General Assembly while voting; results will be returned in a maximum of 48 hours.

Unity in Diversity!

Holts

The marhaenists of the southeast wrote:Personally, I think the west hates socialism more than they hate planned economy, they would rather see a country that's planned economy corporatist rather than market socialist, however I also agree on the part that market socialism's effectiveness are often times repeated by liberals who prefers idealism rather than materialism, and can be a hindrance for entering into class theories and Marxism.

Basically, no matter what socialist ideology you choose, it is generally a good idea to read a little bit of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc before getting into the theory of your preferred ideology. (With the emphasis on also learning the theory of your preferred ideology due to how often people preferred an ideology due to taking someone else's word for it)

TL;DR : Don't choose an ideology just because you've heard it from someone or because of the Aesthetics, read some theories first

Hbd Comrade!

I'm not really bothered about long term socialist goals such as Marxism or global socialism I just want the best for my nation and it's people.

The marhaenists of the southeast and The syndicalist union of iowa

The Wilderness of Eloren

The marhaenists of the southeast wrote:


Personally, I think the west hates socialism more than they hate planned economy, they would rather see a country that's planned economy corporatist rather than market socialist, however I also agree on the part that market socialism's effectiveness are often times repeated by liberals who prefers idealism rather than materialism, and can be a hindrance for entering into class theories and Marxism.

Basically, no matter what socialist ideology you choose, it is generally a good idea to read a little bit of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc before getting into the theory of your preferred ideology. (With the emphasis on also learning the theory of your preferred ideology due to how often people preferred an ideology due to taking someone else's word for it)

TL;DR : Don't choose an ideology just because you've heard it from someone or because of the Aesthetics, read some theories first



Hbd Comrade!

And to add to that, don't merely choose an ideology. Socialism is not some à la carte belief system here, it's a model for a different society. What distinguishes the roleplayers from the revolutionaries? What we do and how we live our lives. Anybody can choose an identity, but if in the end it doesn't change how we spend our time, how are we any different than someone who continues to contribute to consumer capitalism?

The left wing federation, The marhaenists of the southeast, and The syndicalist union of iowa

Shumi

The marhaenists of the southeast wrote:Personally, I think the west hates socialism more than they hate planned economy, they would rather see a country that's planned economy corporatist rather than market socialist, however I also agree on the part that market socialism's effectiveness are often times repeated by liberals who prefers idealism rather than materialism, and can be a hindrance for entering into class theories and Marxism.

Basically, no matter what socialist ideology you choose, it is generally a good idea to read a little bit of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc before getting into the theory of your preferred ideology. (With the emphasis on also learning the theory of your preferred ideology due to how often people preferred an ideology due to taking someone else's word for it)

TL;DR : Don't choose an ideology just because you've heard it from someone or because of the Aesthetics, read some theories first

Hbd Comrade!

choosing an ideology is one of the funniest concepts ive ever heard! socialism isnt a choice, its inevitable whether you like it or not. ridiculous. liberals infecting the leftist space once more.

Khemedite

Shumi wrote:choosing an ideology is one of the funniest concepts ive ever heard! socialism isnt a choice, its inevitable whether you like it or not. ridiculous. liberals infecting the leftist space once more.

Above person probably also thinks that democracy is a liberal indoctrination ideology.

The Community of Cascadia, The marhaenists of the southeast, and Felici successorem civitatis

Shumi

Khemedite wrote:Above person probably also thinks that democracy is a liberal indoctrination ideology.

are you still upset about yesterday when everyone realised you're a fraud?

Khemedite

Shumi wrote:are you still upset about yesterday when everyone realised you're a fraud?

you mean 2 orthodox MLs?

Khemedite

Shumi wrote:are you still upset about yesterday when everyone realised you're a fraud?

hoho, I beat some random person making theories on the internet, he's a fraud guys!

Shumi

Khemedite wrote:hoho, I beat some random person making theories on the internet, he's a fraud guys!

obsessed

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