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The Kaisertum of Austrin

[quote=eluney;47942811]Peronist. A national and popular movement born in Argentina in the 40's from the leadership of General Juan Domingo Perón and his wife, Eva Duarte de Perón. The movement was characterized by the inclusion in the political life of people excluded at that time (lower classes, rural workers and industrial workers), the expansion of social, labor and welfare state rights and the industrialization of the country.

Perón had a motto: neither Marxist nor capitalist. Not everything for the worker, not everything for the boss. The only possible alternative is the creation of a national bourgeoisie concerned with the interests and welfare of the Nation, within the framework of a class alliance and not a class struggle. For this reason, in the economic field, I consider myself in favor of a mixed economy with state interventions where there are market failures (monopolies, for example) and active state participation in natural resources or strategic areas (energy, mining, food industry, among others). All this, always favoring private initiative as much as possible within the framework of a tax system that does not stifle production and investment.

Socially, I am a liberal and in favor of the expansion of civil and political rights as broad as possible. Although I may not personally be in favor of any of them (for example, abortion), I believe in a secular, democratic, republican and federal State.

Thank you Eluney this is very educational for me as I have read about Peronism and understood that it played a large role in shaping Argentinian politics throughout the 1950s to the present. But all sources that came up were very unclear and unspecific when it came to what it actually was all about. It seems to be very pragmatic to me. I disagree with it entirely but it certainly is a legitimate position to take. Thanks for sharing Eluney.

Ecclestia and Eluney

Eluney

Austrin wrote:[quote=eluney;47942811]Peronist. A national and popular movement born in Argentina in the 40's from the leadership of General Juan Domingo Perón and his wife, Eva Duarte de Perón. The movement was characterized by the inclusion in the political life of people excluded at that time (lower classes, rural workers and industrial workers), the expansion of social, labor and welfare state rights and the industrialization of the country.

Perón had a motto: neither Marxist nor capitalist. Not everything for the worker, not everything for the boss. The only possible alternative is the creation of a national bourgeoisie concerned with the interests and welfare of the Nation, within the framework of a class alliance and not a class struggle. For this reason, in the economic field, I consider myself in favor of a mixed economy with state interventions where there are market failures (monopolies, for example) and active state participation in natural resources or strategic areas (energy, mining, food industry, among others). All this, always favoring private initiative as much as possible within the framework of a tax system that does not stifle production and investment.

Socially, I am a liberal and in favor of the expansion of civil and political rights as broad as possible. Although I may not personally be in favor of any of them (for example, abortion), I believe in a secular, democratic, republican and federal State.

Thank you Eluney this is very educational for me as I have read about Peronism and understood that it played a large role in shaping Argentinian politics throughout the 1950s to the present. But all sources that came up were very unclear and unspecific when it came to what it actually was all about. It seems to be very pragmatic to me. I disagree with it entirely but it certainly is a legitimate position to take. Thanks for sharing Eluney.

My telegram box is open to continue chatting about Peronism and politics in general! Peronism is a very broad movement, often contradictory and difficult to understand even for specialists on the subject, so there is a lot to talk about ;)

The Republic of Concordare

Wallaci wrote:Guys what is your political ideology

My views have fluctuated a bit, especially the past few years. For now, some days I would call myself a social democrat; other days I would say a left-wing populist; other times I would say a progressive. You get the idea.

Eluney, Gideon, and Wallaci

The presbyterian church

Wallaci wrote:Guys what is your political ideology

I’m mostly apolitical in real life. I like to follow politics but I try to avoid getting caught up in things that I can’t directly change. I think my biggest exception to this is probably being very pro-environmental conservation.

The Vietnamese Eucharistic Youth of Alluxia

The presbyterian church wrote:I’m mostly apolitical in real life. I like to follow politics but I try to avoid getting caught up in things that I can’t directly change. I think my biggest exception to this is probably being very pro-environmental conservation.

Don't worry I am also pro-environmental
Probably because of the Vietnamese government's pro-environmental views. Speaking of which it only has 1 party aka Communist Party of Vietnam

Concordare, Ecclestia, Gideon, and The presbyterian church

The Christian States of Gideon

Alluxia wrote:Don't worry I am also pro-environmental
Probably because of the Vietnamese government's pro-environmental views. Speaking of which it only has 1 party aka Communist Party of Vietnam

I might be going to Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi for work later this year!

Concordare, Ecclestia, Americolumbia, Eluney, and 2 othersAlluxia, and The presbyterian church

The Vietnamese Eucharistic Youth of Alluxia

Some infos about Christianity in Vietnam

Religion distribution in Vietnam (Catholicism, Protestantism and other non-Christian religions)

- Northern lowlands: In the countryside, Buddhism is the predominant religion, and Catholicism being the largest minority. Protestantism is very rare. Catholicism is more popular in towns and cities, with their numbers being equal to that of Buddhism. Protestants although live more in the towns and cities but their numbers are relatively small compared to Catholicism.

- Northern mountainous areas: Protestants outnumber Catholics here. Protestants live mostly in the countryside, while Catholics are focused in towns. Buddhism still has a presence in this area.

- Central coasts: Buddhism and Catholicism compete in this area, while Protestantism are no match.

- Central border areas: Here the presence of Protestantism outnumber Catholicism but Buddhism outnumbers both.

- Central Highlands: This is actually the name of the area so I am gonna capitalize the H in highlands. Anyways, Catholics and Buddhists are in the low points in the Highlands, with Catholics in towns and Buddhists in the countryside, while Protestants and to some point, Buddhists, concentrate on the high points in the Highlands.

- South Central Coast: Again this is the name of the area. Catholics slightly outnumber Buddhists in cities and towns but Buddhists slightly outnumber Catholics in the countryside, like in the other areas. Muslims concentrate in the southern part of this area.

- South Central mountainous areas: Protestantism slightly outnumber Catholicism here. Buddhism has small presence in both urban and rural areas.

- Southern lowlands: This region is where Catholicism concentrate the most, especially in urban areas. Protestantism here is non-existent. Seriously in Thủ Đức City belonging to Ho Chi Minh City I only found like 2 Protestant (Southern Vietnamese Evangelical) churches out of a ton of Catholic churches. Buddhist presence is smaller than Catholic one in urban areas, but it's the opposite in rural areas, with the exception of Đồng Nai province, which is a predominant Catholic province (if you don't count atheists).

- Mekong Delta: This area has more Buddhist presence than Catholic one. Catholicism concentrates more on urban areas as always. There is also a small Protestant presence, and also, surprisingly, Islam presence as well, mostly in the An Giang province.

Other:

- According to the 2019 census, Catholicism is the largest religion, while Protestantism is the third largest. If you don't count folk religion of course.
- If you see a church and you wanna differentiate between Catholic and Protestant, check the title before the name. If you see the title "giáo xứ" then it's Catholic, if you see "chi hội" then it's Protestant.
- Orthodoxy is non-existent in all of Vietnam.
- If you ask someone if he's a Christian and he says: "Yes, I am a Christian" then 99.9% that means he's a Catholic. Vietnamese people usually understand Catholicism as Christianity and Protestantism as a separate branch and completely unrelated to Catholicism (to me it's yay since we Catholics also somewhat hold that view)
- The Gospel in Vietnamese can be translated in 2 ways. One is the Catholic way, "Tin Mừng", and two is the Protestant way, "Tin Lành".
- There are 2 main Protestant churches, but these churches usually are considered to be united in one church, the Evangelical Church of Vietnam. The 2 churches are the Evangelical Church of Vietnam (North) and Evangelical Church of Vietnam (South). Note that they belong to the Christian ideology of Vietnamese evangelicalism, which is more progressive than the American one.

The Vietnamese Eucharistic Youth of Alluxia

Gideon wrote:I might be going to Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi for work later this year!

Ok. If you go to HCMC then I recommend wearing a mask before you go out since the air is not really fresh and there are a hella vehicles outside lol

The Most Orthodox Empire of Americolumbia

Wallaci wrote:Guys what is your political ideology

Theocrat, Monarchist, Communitarian (socially-conservative socialist), and Market-Socialist. Also strong Environmentalist and Anti-Racist :).

Concordare, Austrin, Eluney, Alluxia, and 2 othersGideon, and Wallaci

Ewereni

Wallaci wrote:Guys what is your political ideology

I'm a principled conservative and also believe in the idea of theodemocracy. I live in Utah so am surrounded by Latter-day Saints (Mormons) and Theodemocracy was one of Joseph Smith's ideas of organizing a government. I'm not a Mormon and I definitely don't follow Joseph Smith however as far as he was a man with an idea, I like that idea that he had.

The Christian Republic of Rolenmar

We have filled the Oversight & Reform Committee. Thank you to everyone who has joined, I look forward to working with you all!

Assembly members, hopefully some new legislation for you to debate and vote on coming your way soon.

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Mendevia, Ecclestia, Civitas asiae et pacificarum, Eco-Paris Reformation, and 3 othersSen shina, Gideon, and The presbyterian church

The Christian States of Gideon

Rolenmar wrote:We have filled the Oversight & Reform Committee. Thank you to everyone who has joined, I look forward to working with you all!

Assembly members, hopefully some new legislation for you to debate and vote on coming your way soon.

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Thanks for your hard work on this. Glad to see the involvement of our Assembly members!

Mendevia, Ecclestia, Civitas asiae et pacificarum, and Rolenmar

The presbyterian church

"Gentleness and goodness, delicacy toward little ones, pity–yes, pity –toward those who suffer, the rejection of perverse means, the defense of the oppressed, humble devotion, resistance to lies, the courage to call evil by its name, the spirit of peace and concord, openness of heart, the thought of heaven. . .: that is what Christian heroism will save. This whole 'morality of slaves' will make it obvious that it is a morality of free men, that it alone makes man free."

The Vietnamese Eucharistic Youth of Alluxia

Wallaci wrote:Guys what is your political ideology

A social conservative, that's all.

Concordare, The thaindom of the shire, Rolenmar, and Wallaci

The United People of Palestinian-Israelis

Wallaci wrote:Guys what is your political ideology

Christian Democracy

Concordare, Rolenmar, and Wallaci

The Christian States of Gideon

If you had to pick which policy category is most important to you personally, would you pick environmental, education, health care, financial, or economic?

Concordare, Austrin, and Geneviev

The Republic of Concordare

Gideon wrote:If you had to pick which policy category is most important to you personally, would you pick environmental, education, health care, financial, or economic?

I would say education, but they're really all interconnected.

Eluney

Proud columbia

Today is one of the greatest days in American history! Praise God! Hallelujah!

The Christian States of Gideon

Proud columbia wrote:Today is one of the greatest days in American history! Praise God! Hallelujah!

Meh, I think there may be more.

The Most Orthodox Empire of Americolumbia

Proud columbia wrote:Today is one of the greatest days in American history! Praise God! Hallelujah!

Great that Roe is gone, and I’m sure those culture warriors will be the first to push for adequate pre and post natal care and social safety nets, advocate against the death penalty, and help make schools safer for children. You know, being pro-life and all.

Gideon wrote:Meh, I think there may be more.

I’m personally waiting for the States to transition to a Orthodox Monarchy with a market-socialist/Titoist economic system.

The Christian States of Gideon

Americolumbia wrote:Great that Roe is gone, and I’m sure those culture warriors will be the first to push for adequate pre and post natal care and social safety nets, advocate against the death penalty, and help make schools safer for children. You know, being pro-life and all.

I’m personally waiting for the States to transition to a Orthodox Monarchy with a market-socialist/Titoist economic system.

There could be unintended consequences too. By overturning the precedence, you also take away the restrictions to abortion that were in effect. A state now has the power to have unrestricted access to abortion just the same as a state can ban it.

The Republic of Concordare

Americolumbia wrote:Great that Roe is gone, and I’m sure those culture warriors will be the first to push for adequate pre and post natal care and social safety nets, advocate against the death penalty, and help make schools safer for children. You know, being pro-life and all.

That would be nice....

Post by Proud columbia suppressed by Ecclestia.

Proud columbia

Gideon wrote:Meh, I think there may be more.

There are, but this was the first shot of undoing a horrible wrong. God willing, we’ll push the baby-killers completely out of the public sphere. It’s like the invasion of Normandy for the Pro-Life movement, and we’re gonna push them all the way back to their Berlin. We ain’t stopping at just making it a state issue, we’re going to ban this evil practice from sea to shining sea and let Satan and his minions weep bitter tears. Liberals and other Antichrists fought tooth and nail for the “right” to murder their own children, fighting them at every turn and forcing them out of the public sphere is the most Christian thing an American could do right now.

Heck, this just means everything else is possible. The Wall. Deportations. Banning Drag Queens. All of it is within reach. God has blessed our efforts, and only more great things are to come :).

Americolumbia wrote:Great that Roe is gone, and I’m sure those culture warriors will be the first to push for adequate pre and post natal care and social safety nets, advocate against the death penalty, and help make schools safer for children. You know, being pro-life and all.

This talk of “social safety nets” and the like is a diversion from the win for today. We just made it easier to ban baby-murder in the U.S., but of course the socialists are gonna use this as an opportunity to rant about how Daddy Government should take care of everyone. We believe in God, not government here sweetheart, and given how great things have been thanks to our Supreme Court you better get used to it ;).

Americolumbia wrote:I’m personally waiting for the States to transition to a Orthodox Monarchy with a market-socialist/Titoist economic system.

“Orthodox Christianity” is neither, it’s a daughter of the Roman Catholic Church and just another part of Babylon’s false One World Religion. All it is is paganism with Christ and Mary really being Osiris and Isis. I know it’s easy to be deceived by the “tradition” of their church and the spiritual appeal, but please seek Christ. Find yourself a Bible-believing, hard-preaching, Spirit-filled Evangelical church and be Born Again. Don’t fall for legalism and fancy robes and rituals, seek the Living God.

Also, socialism of any sort is no bueno, it’s a violent atheist ideology built on covetousness and theft. Marx is roasting in the pits of Hell next to other socialist leaders like Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, and Mao. Don’t join them. Jesus used stories of people investing their money for profit to teach valuable spiritual lessons; Christ is a capitalist, just like Job and Abraham as Godly wealthy men who honored God by their wise stewardship.

I’m cool with Monarchy though, Jesus is a King too. I frankly think the Trump family qualifies as “American Royalty,” why not start off with His Royal Majesty Donald I of the House Trump ;)?

The Grand Duchy of Norfshire

Proud columbia wrote:*snip*

If the Orthodox church is the daughter of the Latin chuch, did the Latin church split off from the Orthodox church in your eyes or vice versa? Also what was the Church before that split? I'm in the camp where the Church prior to the Great Schism is the same entity as & direct ancestor of the Orthodox church today.

The Democratic Commonwealth of Ecclestia

Proud columbia - you're allowed to disagree with a religion or someone else and be happy with the decision of the Supreme Court but you may not degrade entire branches of Christianity or insult those you disagree with. You can try that post again, this time without the rudeness or insulting entire groups of people. Do it again and you'll be charged.

Concordare, The thaindom of the shire, and Gideon

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