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The Federal Republic of Montago

4D Donkeys wrote:
There's not an option to do this thing in-game, but we can agree on it in a non-typical way

- Kimolos Donkey, Minister of 4D Donkeys' Supreme Council

- Michigan Remembrance, Minister of Foreign Affairs of 4D Donkeys

Great! When shall we have a meeting about it?

-Jann Kurs, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Federal Republic of Montago.

The Retro-Futuristic Starship of New Astri

Reminder to spoiler your roleplay as per regional rules, Montago. The code for spoilering text is

[spoiler]your text here[/spoiler]

The Federal Republic of Montago

New Astri wrote:Reminder to spoiler your roleplay as per regional rules, Montago. The code for spoilering text is
[spoiler]your text here[/spoiler]

Got it thank you.

The Federation of Proletarska

Liberza wrote:

Recently Maksov Nikyta gladly lifted the ban on public dissent and enabled the people’s ability to protest against the government and such.

To: Anyone who is willing to sign the Anti-Terrorist Organization Manifesto,

Good Afternoon,

As we have witnessed many wars on terrorism and many attacks on nations, we have decided to organize a organization to keep life safe for all and to keep terrorists out of the world. We wish to have either your foreign minister or Head of State to come to the soon to be Headquarters in Cestin soon to have our manifesto for safety ratified.

John Flowers, Prime Minister

Andrew Starmer, Foreign Minister

Montago wrote:Great! When shall we have a meeting about it?

-Jann Kurs, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Federal Republic of Montago.

When are you available?

- Andrew Starmer, Foreign Minister

The Pyramid pizza of Liberza

Proletarska wrote:

To: Anyone who is willing to sign the Anti-Terrorist Organization Manifesto,

Good Afternoon,

As we have witnessed many wars on terrorism and many attacks on nations, we have decided to organize a organization to keep life safe for all and to keep terrorists out of the world. We wish to have either your foreign minister or Head of State to come to the soon to be Headquarters in Cestin soon to have our manifesto for safety ratified.

John Flowers, Prime Minister

Andrew Starmer, Foreign Minister

When are you available?

- Andrew Starmer, Foreign Minister

Maksov simply replied ‘ok’ and sent his current Head of State, Stephane Favreau.

The Federation of Proletarska

Liberza wrote:

Maksov simply replied ‘ok’ and sent his current Head of State, Stephane Favreau.

All Flowers responded with was " Very cool of you "

The Federal Republic of Montago

Goshnia and Goshnigovina wrote:
One condition is a large aquarium with catfish - Joan Leshew Minister of Foreign Affairs of Goshnia and Goshnigovina

I will try to install that into our embassy.

The Federal Republic of Montago

When are you available?

- Andrew Starmer, Foreign Minister[/spoiler][/quote]

I am available at almost any time, you can chose when we can. I am in EST.

The Federation of Proletarska

Montago wrote:When are you available?

- Andrew Starmer, Foreign Minister[/spoiler]

I am available at almost any time, you can chose when we can. I am in EST.

Same here, Is 5:00pm fine?

- Andrew Starmer, Foreign Minister

The Federal Republic of Montago

Proletarska wrote:

Same here, Is 5:00pm fine?

- Andrew Starmer, Foreign Minister

Tomorrow?

-Jann Kurs, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Federal Republic of Montago.

The People's Republic of Jishuin

These people support peace and equality simply to satisfy their own moral superiority. "baizuo (white left) (left glue)" is only concerned with immigration, ethnic minorities, LGBT and environmental issues. Just arrogant westerners, pitiful for the rest of the world in a savior gesture.

The Dictatorship of the Catgirl of Feyrisshire

Jishuin wrote:-snip-

I admit that I do not really understand what you are trying to say here.

The Retro-Futuristic Starship of New Astri

Jishuin wrote:These people support peace and equality simply to satisfy their own moral superiority. "baizuo (white left) (left glue)" is only concerned with immigration, ethnic minorities, LGBT and environmental issues. Just arrogant westerners, pitiful for the rest of the world in a savior gesture.

Are you implying that there's something wrong with being concerned about the wellbeing of people of color & the LGBT community?

Post by Jishuin suppressed by New Astri.

The People's Republic of Jishuin

New Astri wrote:Are you implying that there's something wrong with being concerned about the wellbeing of people of color & the LGBT community?

Please pay attention that you only pay attention to these, not the others
Please note that you only pay attention to these, not the others. I'll write it myself next time, it's lost the translation again

The People's Republic of Jishuin

New Astri wrote:Are you implying that there's something wrong with being concerned about the wellbeing of people of color & the LGBT community?

Please pay attention that you only pay attention to these, not the others
Please note that you only pay attention to these, not the others. I'll write it myself next time, it's lost the translation again

The Retro-Futuristic Starship of New Astri

Jishuin wrote:Please pay attention that you only pay attention to these, not the others
Please note that you only pay attention to these, not the others. I'll write it myself next time, it's lost the translation again

I am worried that something is getting lost in translation here, so I don't want to jump to conclusions. However, I'm concerned that you're engaged in the bigoted rhetoric of blaming people for being concerned with identity-based systematic oppression under the strawman that it's "the only thing we're concerned with," when it absolutely isn't.

The Free Land of Hecatie

Not sure what to say here. Refugees, LGBT opression, enviromentalism and Racism have always been p big issues. We cant really just ignore them.

The People's Republic of Manchukurun

There's a fine line between saying that identity politics are used by neoliberal corporatists to keep the working class in line, and saying that it's wrong to care about identity politics.

The first is blaming the problem on the bourgeoisie and political ghouls, and the second is blaming the oppressed proletariat who include people of all identities

Post by Jishuin suppressed by New Astri.

The People's Republic of Jishuin

Hecatie wrote:Not sure what to say here. Refugees, LGBT opression, enviromentalism and Racism have always been p big issues. We cant really just ignore them.

I don't think this is a big problem because capitalism is creating contradictions and opposites. At the same time, it also shifts people's attention from class struggle to these minor issues. In my opinion, they are undermining the socialist united front and splitting up the proletarian forces. The plot of capitalism to continue to rule the world. Do you think this problem will arise when socialism wins?

The Dictatorship of Nanbao

Jishuin it helps no one to be reductive, sure fighting for socialism should be a big concern but who says we can’t focus on other issues?

The Retro-Futuristic Starship of New Astri

Jishuin wrote:snip

Systematic oppression of minorities is not a "minor issue." It's a massive issue, one which kills and ruins lives daily, that deserves attention. There is no class liberation without liberation of other oppressed minorities. Your rhetoric is bigoted, and this is an official warning for it. I don't want to see another post like this.

The People's Republic of Manchukurun

Jishuin wrote:snip

You agree that these issues are used by capitalists to divide the workers, and yet it is the voting workers you mention as being in fault. Why?

And yes, socialism is not the end of history

The Dictatorship of Nanbao

New Astri wrote:Systematic oppression of minorities is not a "minor issue." It's a massive issue, one which kills and ruins lives daily, that deserves attention. There is no class liberation without liberation of other oppressed minorities. Your rhetoric is bigoted, and this is an official warning for it. I don't want to see another post like this.

Took the words right out of my mouth bro

The Retro-Futuristic Starship of New Astri

Manchukurun wrote:You agree that these issues are used by capitalists to divide the workers, and yet it is the voting workers you mention as being in fault. Why?

And yes, socialism is not the end of history

This is a good point, Manchukurun. Jishuin's logic may not be intentionally bigoted, but this clear contradiction shows that there's no logic to blaming minorities for supposed lack of attention to class struggle, and it's simply an excuse to disregard oppressed people. It's never fair to use minorities as a scapegoat.

The Libertarian Commune of Vicenti

Nanbao wrote:Jishuin it helps no one to be reductive, sure fighting for socialism should be a big concern but who says we can’t focus on other issues?

Possibly his point is this, one who focuses so much on social issues will eventually forget about economic issues. You see this in America today. The economy has so many problems but Americans are fighting about what one does in their personal life. We get so engrossed in the “culture wars” that we totally forget the social policy is only one half of the story.

Though I must admit his post came of as kind of…odd to say the least. But if my suspicions prove to be correct I do believe Jishuin is from a different culture than western culture, so bear that in mind that there might be a cultural difference here. In some parts of the world social values never change (take Russia or China for example) but here in western countries our culture constantly evolves with changing times and circumstances. I can’t speak for them specifically, but it should be noted that people are not going to hold a value universally which might explain that post.

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