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The People's Republic of Andusre

next time my notices exceed 3 i will roll on the floor and start screaming ok thx bye

Ilefeb

The Democratic States of Developing World

I hereby announce I am dropping my membership of the Thaecian Progressive Union and will continue to be outspoken in the public space as an independent.

Orangemain

The Chair Kingdom of Cerdenia

Pirate Party Announcement

Now that the elections are over I can safely say this. You people completely destroyed the Senate election, I don't know how this results will end up looking like, but honestly it is a disgrace. I am not going to position myself in favour of either side here, but I would like to announce that the PPT shall NOT go into a coalition with either the TPU or TRP in the Senate. These elections have been ruined and I would rather take it to a snap election then coalitioning with either of them following what happened, thank you.

Cerdenia,
Captain of the Pirate Party of Thaecia

Kingdom of bradonia, Upper ontario and hudson bay, Islonia, Developing World, and 3 othersAndusre, Shoila, and Orangemain

The Democratic States of Developing World

Oh I changed to the TRP saying I'd change back later...but the poll ended. What a humor of fate

Lass

Cerdenia wrote:Pirate Party Announcement

Now that the elections are over I can safely say this. You people completely destroyed the Senate election, I don't know how this results will end up looking like, but honestly it is a disgrace. I am not going to position myself in favour of either side here, but I would like to announce that the PPT shall NOT go into a coalition with either the TPU or TRP in the Senate. These elections have been ruined and I would rather take it to a snap election then coalitioning with either of them following what happened, thank you.

look they shouldn't have released what they did during the elections

Cerdenia,
Captain of the Pirate Party of Thaecia

The Avatar of Thanatos of Islonia

Lass wrote:-snip-

Why quoting just for quoting?

The People's Republic of Andusre

Cerdenia wrote:Pirate Party Announcement

Now that the elections are over I can safely say this. You people completely destroyed the Senate election, I don't know how this results will end up looking like, but honestly it is a disgrace. I am not going to position myself in favour of either side here, but I would like to announce that the PPT shall NOT go into a coalition with either the TPU or TRP in the Senate. These elections have been ruined and I would rather take it to a snap election then coalitioning with either of them following what happened, thank you.

Cerdenia,
Captain of the Pirate Party of Thaecia

I offer my apologies to the Pirate Party on behalf of the TPU. If this is your stance, we won't try to change your mind, we are truly sorry for the toxicity which infected the region lately.

Upper ontario and hudson bay

Cerdenia wrote:Pirate Party Announcement

Now that the elections are over I can safely say this. You people completely destroyed the Senate election, I don't know how this results will end up looking like, but honestly it is a disgrace. I am not going to position myself in favour of either side here, but I would like to announce that the PPT shall NOT go into a coalition with either the TPU or TRP in the Senate. These elections have been ruined and I would rather take it to a snap election then coalitioning with either of them following what happened, thank you.

Cerdenia,
Captain of the Pirate Party of Thaecia

I agree with the sentiment expressed here. The Election wasn't what it should have been.

Cerdenia, Developing World, and Orangemain

The Chair Kingdom of Cerdenia

Some may get pissed, but I am doing it either way: page=rmb/postid=35948907

Upper ontario and hudson bay

Cerdenia wrote:Some may get pissed, but I am doing it either way: page=rmb/postid=35948907

I agree that this needs to happen but, the Senate is in recess. Also, we need to solve this issue before another vote should take place.

Titanne

The Democratic States of Developing World

Cerdenia wrote:Some may get pissed, but I am doing it either way: page=rmb/postid=35948907

I fully support the actions of the Senate Chairman on this one - we have got to do better then this campaign

Orangemain

The Chair Kingdom of Cerdenia

Upper ontario and hudson bay wrote:I agree that this needs to happen but, the Senate is in recess. Also, we need to solve this issue before another vote should take place.

Cerdenia wrote:I hereby declare that the senate is open for business once again, and I have the basis to do this because the next senate hasn't been inaugurated yet, and as such there is still a majority:

"The opening of a Senate Session must be announced by the Chairman of the Senate in a opening statement to the Senate. This can only be done once a majority has been found. Once the opening statement is done business may begin in the Senate."

Kingdom of bradonia

Shoila

Upper ontario and hudson bay wrote:I agree that this needs to happen but, the Senate is in recess. Also, we need to solve this issue before another vote should take place.

I also believe that we need this issue sorted. Things aren't going to go back to normal with it hanging around

Upper ontario and hudson bay

The Republic of Ermica

What happened here?

Titanne

I am absolutely furious by Cerdenia’s actions. The arguments actually helped the election, turnout was high, and the arguing took the place of a cancelled debate. I urge all senators to vote nay on his bill.
Levantx
Albianis
Greater conexus

Oroplastia

The Democratic States of Developing World

Titanne wrote:I am absolutely furious by Cerdenia’s actions. The arguments actually helped the election, turnout was high, and the arguing took the place of a cancelled debate. I urge all senators to vote nay on his bill.
Levantx
Albianis
Greater conexus

With no offense, your words are absurd! The arguments did not help the election, it just made it about something it was not. This wasn't about the Senate anymore, it was about the troubled past of some and corruption of others, it was a debacle whose loser was our great region, which became flooded with toxicity from both sides, which is why the elections must happen again

Cerdenia, Fishergate, Greater conexus, and Orangemain

Ilefeb

Hey! Is this Thaecia's first Lame Duck session?

The Chair Kingdom of Cerdenia

Titanne wrote:I am absolutely furious by Cerdenia’s actions. The arguments actually helped the election, turnout was high, and the arguing took the place of a cancelled debate. I urge all senators to vote nay on his bill.
Levantx
Albianis
Greater conexus

No it didn't, the actions destroyed our elections. There was no debate around policy or any of that, only accusations of fascism or whatever, which, even if correct, frankly have nothing to do with our elections and turned our region into a pile of toxic s***. I am disappointed, if you are going to back this then so be it, but I know that I won't. High turnout means nothing if real issues aren't debated, and parties just try to call each other fascist or undemocratic or whatever. I am not backing off the motion and I hope the senators will realise what happened here today. Multiple people have already expressed their concerns against this situation, I doubt the actual citizens of Thaecia were happy seeing their RMB spammed with toxic discussion. I honestly don't see what you tend to gain with this.

Kingdom of bradonia

Developing World wrote:With no offense, your words are absurd! The arguments did not help the election, it just made it about something it was not. This wasn't about the Senate anymore, it was about the troubled past of some and corruption of others, it was a debacle whose loser was our great region, which became flooded with toxicity from both sides, which is why the elections must happen again

With respect, I doubt having the Senate election again will do anything regarding toxicity.

If it is determined by the court that a nation committed a crime, and that crime may have influenced the election, they will have no choice but determine that the latest Senate election was fraudulent and tampered with.

Considering the influx of outside nations that had much to say about nations within this region, I'm doubtful that any responsible court would allow the current Senate election to remain intact.

Fishergate and Shoila

The Chair Kingdom of Cerdenia

Kingdom of bradonia wrote:With respect, I doubt having the Senate election again will do anything regarding toxicity.

If it is determined by the court that a nation committed a crime and that crime may have influenced the election, they will have no choice but determine that the latest Senate election was fraudulent and tampered with.

Considering the influx of outside nations that had much to say about nations within this region, I'm doubtful that any responsible Court would allow the current Senate election to remain intact.

I don't believe the court can simply request another election sir, can't see any legal basis which allows for them do that.

Developing World, Titanne, and Orangemain

Kingdom of bradonia

Cerdenia wrote:I don't believe the court can simply request another election sure, can't see any legal basis which allows for them do that.

They may determine, by their own vested constitutional authority, that the recent election was unconstitutional, given their power of judicial review. Considering most constitutional courts follow the American model, I'm optimistic that they carry this authority.

The Democratic States of Developing World

Kingdom of bradonia wrote:They may determine, by their own vested constitutional authority, that the recent election was unconstitutional, given their power of judicial review. Considering most constitutional courts follow the American model, I'm optimistic that they carry this authority.

Why risk when we can simply pass a motion in the Senate?

Titanne

Kingdom of bradonia wrote:They may determine, by their own vested constitutional authority, that the recent election was unconstitutional, given their power of judicial review. Considering most constitutional courts follow the American model, I'm optimistic that they carry this authority.

How was it unconstitutional?

The WA Delegate of Rayekka

Official Senate Election Results:

TPU WIN A MAJORITY

Seats:
TPU - 3 seats
TRP - 1 seat
PPT - 1 seat

Elected Senators:
Titanne (TPU)
Duras (TPU)
Marvinton (TPU)
Bradonia (TRP)
Cerdenia (PPT)

Full Results:
FAlP - 4 votes (4.5%)
PPT - 15 votes (17%)
TPP - 6 votes (6.8%)
TPU - 39 votes (44.3%)
TSP - 5 votes (5.7%)
TRP - 19 votes (21.6%)
Broustan - 0 (0%)
Indian Genius - 0 (0%)

Turnout = 95 (of which legal = 88)
Illegal Votes = 7

The marconian state and Titanne

Titanne

Rayekka wrote:Official Senate Election Results:

TPU WIN A MAJORITY

Seats:
TPU - 3 seats
TRP - 1 seat
PPT - 1 seat

Elected Senators:
Titanne (TPU)
Duras (TPU)
Marvinton (TPU)
Bradonia (TRP)
Cerdenia (PPT)

Full Results:
FAlP - 4 votes (4.5%)
PPT - 15 votes (17%)
TPP - 6 votes (6.8%)
TPU - 39 votes (44.3%)
TSP - 5 votes (5.7%)
TRP - 19 votes (21.6%)
Broustan - 0 (0%)
Indian Genius - 0 (0%)

Turnout = 95 (of which legal = 88)
Illegal Votes = 7

Are we now inaugurated?

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