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The Imperial Ming of Lusophone Are the NPC Internationale countries being represented by an RP moderator or we’re operating on player influence claims? |
The Guy who made jeff elite of Anxiety Cafe IIRC it’s just the PC’s that are agreeing to abide by those resolutions, the others are more ambiguous |
The Bridgeful Republic of Arela Although it doesn't really affect anything, I'm a bit wary of enlisting the entire socialist world to join the Fifth Internationale - even as mere observers. Denouncing the USSR is really the thing that kills it. Given that most of those socialist countries are inspired and/or modeled after the USSR - and likely have Russophile factions within their parties. Plus, associating a group that explicitly denounces the largest country in the world, that's also a giant oil/arms dealer is something most minor countries would probably rather skip. |
The Bridgeful Republic of Arela Also, even the phrasing of it as an "International" is problematic, as that implies the goal of global revolution. Irl that's why the Comintern was replaced with the Cominform, and later the IMCWP. The term "International" was intentionally avoided. Especially as the Cold War dragged on, most non-Warsaw Pact socialist countries abandoned the idea of a "socialist block" in favor of friendly neutrality with everyone, albeit the socialist world as preferential trade partners. This was part of the reason why the Soviets "abruptly" abandoned Somalia in favor of Ethiopia. As the Soviets suspected that the Somalis were playing both sides, given their negotiations with the US. A lot of the other ML countries that suddenly sprang up during the 70s were also viewed as opportunists - since there was the perception that socialist coup would be followed by economic aid from the Socialist Bloc. The USSR did realize this (and also due to financial problems) began scaling down it's policy of fully backing every socialist country in existence to just focusing on the more "reliable/important" countries. |
The Bridgeful Republic of Arela I would say that the most plausible Internationale member (besides Cuba/Angola) are:
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The Franco-British Union of United Democratic Christian States to my knowledge most of these countries just observed and engaged in the dialogue. Obviously nobody has the power to make these NPCs do anything save for a couple ones like Angola |
The Texas Worker's Government of Lendenburgh "denouncing" is a strong word. The point is the sick man of europe- much, much worse off than the USSR in 1990 IRL- should not be calling the shots of socialist policy. Especially with no CCP, global socialism is, at the very least, based on the ideals of (new world) syndicalism and (polish) corporatism which are both inherently internationalist ideologies. The IWW would've played a large role in the 'socialization' of the CSS economies in the 1920s. "Marxism-Leninism" would probably be replaced by like "Debs-James Thought" in terms of global influence. Especially now that the USSR didn't win WWII and doesn't carry the mantle of 'saving the world from fascism' |
The Texas Worker's Government of Lendenburgh Its even very questionable whether Czechoslovakia and Hungary would be in the Russian sphere of influence, given Poland. If they ever were, its probably safe to say that 1956 and 1968 went very differently |
The Bridgeful Republic of Arela I’m referring to Africa in particular, given that’s were almost all the socialist NPCs are. Irl the reason for Russophiles being so entrenched in Africa is that the USSR was willing to actually walk the walk in backing anti-colonial movements in Africa. I’m a bit confused whether the Syndicalist bloc would’ve been effectively able to do this, given Poland’s alliance with the FBU? |
The Franco-British Union of United Democratic Christian States Im allied with WHO? |
The Texas Worker's Government of Lendenburgh I'm not sure how Poland would've interacted with decolonialism, but my idea was that, especially given that the Spanish-CSS war was basically just a decolonization of Cuba, PR, and the Philippines, the CSS would be very invested in decolonizing nations and trying to help them develop- which most recently is seen in Angola Also, not sure how UMU would feel about this, but I'm guessing the increased political presence of Black Americans would lead to a sort of Afro-nationalist urge in the American political psyche |
The Bridgeful Republic of Arela I’ve got the impression that there was this sustained FBU-Polish alliance against the USSR. |
giving me a really good (bad) idea |
The Texas Worker's Government of Lendenburgh But, regardless of lore changes, I'm happy to remove any controversial nations from the invitee list or just mention that they never accepted the invite My main reasoning for inviting them was to show how controversial different resolutions were, e.g., that almost every nation on Earth opposes Apartheid even in a (non-binding) resolution that offers to use force, but that angering the Chinese and breaking with the Soviets may be unpopular with, say, the Vietnamese |
omw pookie its gonna be horrible i promise |
The Franco-British Union of United Democratic Christian States thats as far as that goes lol |
The Bridgeful Republic of Arela Actually sorry for causing such a fuzz over something that has zero IC impact 😭 I might’ve got a bit carried away with all that. |
The Texas Worker's Government of Lendenburgh concept: you show up but we hired a room full of actors and its at a different venue so you think you're at the real meeting but you're not Nelson Mandela is played by a Cuban man with luscious hair who can barely speak English |
The Texas Worker's Government of Lendenburgh No it was actually nice to learn a little bit of socialist history there |
The Texas Worker's Government of Lendenburgh also, just ignore the fact that there are like... European electoral socialist party delegates sitting alongside literal paramilitaries |
The Franco-British Union of United Democratic Christian States I still find it funny i offered up the French demsoc party, a party that at least ICly *could* have worked with you in the future (I never would of let them win an election OOCly of course) and instead you incited the British Communist Party who would be Stalinist or at the very least Marxist-Leninist, only to bash the ideology lol |
The Lord of the Twinks of Nowa Polonie Oil: Texas The conundrum is solved |
The Lord of the Twinks of Nowa Polonie It's more of an unspoken arrangement to cooperate against the Soviets if and when the need arrives - in almost every other circumstance, the FBU and Poland find themselves on opposing sides. |
The Lord of the Twinks of Nowa Polonie Mood |
The Franco-British Union of United Democratic Christian States like the USSR and the USA if an alien invasion ever happened. Enemies to besties on a dime |