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The Green Otters' State of Garbelia I assume you're joking. Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Middle Barael, and Nation of ecologists |
I'm leaving NS for a while, sorry if anyone will need me in that time, ill be leaving because i need to sort out some things in my life. Ordealius, Frieden-und Freudenland, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 9 othersLord Dominator, Uan aa Boa, The Cypher Nine, Terrabod, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Arklanda, and Wooderland country |
The Intensive Care Unit of Candlewhisper Archive So, how do folk feel about polymetallic nodule mining, from an environmental point of view? Frieden-und Freudenland, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 5 othersLord Dominator, Uan aa Boa, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa Cameroi just CTEd, which is very sad. His posting was sometimes pretty gnomic, but it was distinctive and certainly added to the region. I hope he returns, and not just because without him and Errinundera I'm worried I might now be the oldest person here. Good luck with sorting your things Kepler-0085. When Heillblod arrived the list of actions at the bottom of the nation page still said that 300ish days ago the nation had CTE'd in Nazi Europa. Once enough new actions had taken place to push that off that page I know of no way to find that information, though there may be offsite tools. Effazio, Verdant Haven, Kawastyselir, Frieden-und Freudenland, and 11 othersMount Seymour, Ownzone, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Terrabod, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Kepler-0085, and Wooderland country |
The Federative Republic of Atsvea Prolly not. This might be close... I think they tried it fifty years ago... called it potato picking... then surface mining prices became much too low and the un stepped in... hope it never happens before we find out anything of the deep sea, because right now the effects are basically completely unknown... Frieden-und Freudenland, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Middle Barael, and 2 othersNation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
I don't really understand how anyone could mistake the neo-nazi for anything other than a neo-nazi. If you ask someone to confirm that they're not a nazi and they don't confirm it...they're a nazi and probably a baby-nazi who's not quite sure of themselves yet. Which is honestly the only reason I could think of for letting them stay here. Sometimes being surrounded by reasonable people deradicalises them... but it's a long shot. Cuillin, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Confederacy of Novian Republics I personally don't see indifference/apathy to being called a Nazi to be indicative of support of Nazism. The point they make about Nazi being a buzzword (much like commie is) is a perfectly valid point to make. People get called Nazis/fascists and commies all the time for the most insignificant of things, often for just disagreeing. For such people the terms lose their meaning. I've personally been called both a fascist and commie (and here a radical centrist) for the most minor of deviation from consensus, so I can see where it might be coming from. |
neither do I but they didn't deny the accusation. Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and 1 otherGarbelia |
Well, the second part sort of, but I genuinely don't know. That's literally what first came up when searching for it. Pardon me for my dumbness.. Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and 1 otherGarbelia |
The Confederacy of Novian Republics Thing is that once accused of being a fascist/commie/radical the label usually sticks. Rarely have I seen it help anyone to deny such accusations as more often than not the denial is then seen as being disingenuous and thus regarded as an admission of guilt. Once a person has been in that situation enough times one simply stops to care, as it's seen as a fruitless endeavour to try and change people's mind when they likely already have made up their mind. |
The People's Democratic Republic of Outer Bele Levy Epies Like The Python said: BASH THE FASH! BASH THE FASH! FASH BASH FASH BASH! |
The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa I appreciate that nazi and commie are often used loosely and inaccurately. I'm guessing, however, that when you were last called a communist you weren't newly arrived from The Internationale, flying a hammer and sickle flag, calling yourself the People's Republic of Kim Jong Gulag, and introducing yourself by saying "Workers of the word unite." If I'm right there, it wasn't really an equivalent situation. Kawastyselir, Cuillin, Frieden-und Freudenland, Mount Seymour, and 9 othersAtsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Terrabod, Novian Republics, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Difinbelk |
The Green Otters' State of Garbelia It is my made up otter-worshipping ideology. You are right about the adorable semi-aquatic mammals though. There is a Raider Bele Levy Epies, so why not a Fash-Bashing Bele Levy Epies... Cuillin, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Middle Barael, and 1 otherNation of ecologists |
The Socialist Republic of Cuillin Hi Novian, I felt horrified on seeing this nation's symbolism and language, but I didn't say anything because I'm newish here and didn't want to rock the boat. Only later based on their manner did I feel I needed to speak out, and I have apologised for my tone in response to what I saw was someone promoting Nazi symbolism and language. I think what they had on their profile was a deliberate provocation, and they were looking for the reactions. To me, their whole manner was disingenuous and very coy despite the very obvious symbolism they represented. I see what you are saying, and I understand why you are making the argument. In good conscience I disagree. For me, the symbolism combined with how he engaged with the maybe I am/ maybe I'm not style I think was deliberately done. I read through some of the things he has on his nation, and from his writing I think he is not as daft as he presented us with. To me, there is no equivalence between communist and Nazi. I think communism is a political view/ideology that is understandable if misguided. I think Nazism is a death cult rather than an ideological position and should not be tolerated anywhere. I don't think there is equivalence in calling someone a fascist and a Nazi either. I think calling names is wrong regardless, but there is a difference of severity there. For me, I think had he reacted differently to and realised what his symbolism meant, then I probably would have reacted differently too! That is not to excuse my response at all. Such as it was, he did not present to me as a misguided and ignorant person. Rather he presented as someone who thought it would be a bit of fun to provoke others. His style is coyly provocative, and he started with that same routine with the new region he joined. Murmuria, Verdant Haven, Einswenn, Kawastyselir, and 11 othersNew Kvenland, Daarwyrth, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Terrabod, Novian Republics, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
I completely agree with Cuillin. Murmuria, Verdant Haven, Cuillin, Atsvea, and 7 othersRuinenlust, Lord Dominator, Uan aa Boa, McClandia Doge 2, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Whispering Trees of Murmuria Que boa lição de Geografia do Brasil. Obrigado. Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Uan aa Boa, and 6 othersThe Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, The most serene republicans, and Lugnan |
The Confederacy of Novian Republics Well based on an overarching perspective the situation is obviously not the same, from the perspective of the accused however it may very well be. I don't necessarily take issue with your reaction, as really at most I think it may have just been a bit premature. Atsvea, Lord Dominator, McClandia Doge 2, Middle Barael, and 2 othersGarbelia, and Arklanda |
The Socialist Republic of Cuillin Perhaps. I have come across fascists and neo Nazis in real life, and I have confronted them. I won't tolerate that language or symbolism ever. I don't know who is in charge of these things, but can we have a discussion about going forward about nations that present with neo Nazi flags or symbolism? I would like to propose a rule change if necessary. |
The Confederacy of Kawastyselir If it doesn't show extended history on their nation page, try the NSDossier Tools site from our embassy region Texas, then search in NSHistory. It records NS activity back to about September 2015. It also has plenty of other interesting nation and region statistics to peruse if you'd like. Verdant Haven, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 5 othersTerrabod, Novian Republics, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
sorry to go back to the topic of Scotland but I have a good anecdote about the 'no true scotsman fallacy', kind of. When I was a child, my grandad always criticised my porridge choices. One morning he came downstairs and started his 'no true scot would eat porridge with MILK and no salt!' nonsense. He went red and never criticised my porridge again. Cuillin, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 5 othersLord Dominator, Terrabod, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Whispering Trees of Murmuria In my humble opinion, most people who fancy themselves as nazis are misguided attention seekers who think it's cool to have a taste of an ideologically disgusting, historically deplored forbidden fruit. Cuillin, Mount Seymour, Ownzone, Atsvea, and 7 othersRuinenlust, Lord Dominator, Novian Republics, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and Difinbelk |
The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa I would 100% support that. When Heillblod arrived I still had border control powers as an Election Officer. I did consider banning them before they ever posted based on aesthetic and point of origin, but I figured that this wouldn't be considered a very Foresty action, I'm the ex-Red Fleet guy, the only person (at that point) to have used the banhammer recently etc etc. Things would have turned out better if I'd done it. "Forest welcomes all nations" is the usual counter-argument, but for me that's precisely the point. Our community has many Jewish members, LGBT+ members, and members from diverse races and cultures. How welcoming is it to say that strutting around Forest dressing up as a Nazi is OK? Another counterargument is Nazi Flower Power, a satirical nation that dwelt quietly and inoffensively in Forest for a long time. The flag featured a swastika and the motto (which made me smile) was "Volk, Reich, Blumen." I felt it was harmless, and if it was still here and we introduced a rule I'd support not enforcing the rule retrospectively. In the bigger picture though, the right to make satirical use of Nazi symbols is a small price to pay for making it clear that we're a region that has a robust zero tolerance of fascism. It's so important to get this one right and not fudge the issue like they do in Europe. I'm on the political left, but this is not a leftist issue. It's an issue of basic decency, and in a year in which the actual US President used white supremacists he called "very fine people" to attempt a coup - it matters. No true Scot spells whisky with an e. Bananaistan, Mozworld, Murmuria, Verdant Haven, and 13 othersKawastyselir, Cuillin, Mount Seymour, Daarwyrth, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Terrabod, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and Difinbelk |
The People's Republic of Bananaistan The ideology didn't suddenly disappear in May 1945. It still has adherents and it's reasonable to call these people nazis. At the least they are fascists. They are in power in some countries and close to power in others. Just because they've dropped some of the obviously more nasty elements from their public platforms, doesn't mean they wouldn't get up to all sorts of nastiness if they got a chance. We must oppose them strongly and vociferously whenever we come across them. On the streets, online, wherever. Zero tolerance and none of this liberal free speech nonsense for the ultimate in toxic ideologies. As for pretend fascists. F*** them. Let them pretend something else. Murmuria, Verdant Haven, Einswenn, Cuillin, and 11 othersNew Kvenland, Mount Seymour, Daarwyrth, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Uan aa Boa, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
Amen Verdant Haven, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Simbolon, and 2 othersThe Teeth, and Middle Barael |
R.I.P. Prince Philip. We should all be so lucky to make it to 99 years old. Ordealius, Mozworld, Murmuria, Verdant Haven, and 15 othersEinswenn, Mount Seymour, Daarwyrth, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Terrabod, New ladavia, Roless, Simbolon, Lura, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Wooderland country, and Biae |