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The Federated Bailiwicks of Verdant Haven

Heillblod wrote:Is this only a region for left wing environmentalists?

To quote from the Constitution of Forest...

All ideologies, government types, and perspectives are welcome in Forest so long as they are not purposefully hurtful or offensive to other nations in Forest in a serious way.

It isn't a matter of left or right. Nazism is inherently hurtful and offensive to literally any thinking individual. It promotes the death and destruction, and is a violent hate-movement with no redeeming qualities. It would absolutely fall under the blanket of constitutional prohibition.

Heillblod

Well, I think in the past I would have tried to justify myself or something but yea, I was in a Nazi region, I obviously use this particular symbolic, there is the case. lol

Post by Heillblod suppressed by Ruinenlust.

Heillblod

Verdant Haven wrote:To quote from the Constitution of Forest...

All ideologies, government types, and perspectives are welcome in Forest so long as they are not purposefully hurtful or offensive to other nations in Forest in a serious way.

It isn't a matter of left or right. Nazism is inherently hurtful and offensive to literally any thinking individual. It promotes the death and destruction, and is a violent hate-movement with no redeeming qualities. It would absolutely fall under the blanket of constitutional prohibition.

I mean, If you want to debate the definition of Nazism, thats kinda boring. I like weed and trees. I am politically, personally, very complex.

The Rewilding of Ruinenlust

Verdant Haven wrote:To quote from the Constitution of Forest...

All ideologies, government types, and perspectives are welcome in Forest so long as they are not purposefully hurtful or offensive to other nations in Forest in a serious way.

It isn't a matter of left or right. Nazism is inherently hurtful and offensive to literally any thinking individual. It promotes the death and destruction, and is a violent hate-movement with no redeeming qualities. It would absolutely fall under the blanket of constitutional prohibition.

Speaking of which, Happy(?) Holocaust Remembrance Day 2021! I see that the air forces of Germany & Israel have been engaging in joint ceremonial flights in honor of the day.

Never again, and never forget, and never forgive. The future is what we make it. Love trumps hate. We have the ability, as the living members of the human race, to break free from the skeletons and demons of the past, and to cultivate a new world of peace, inclusion, integration, freedom, and love. It's up to us.

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Edit: We do not double post on the RMB of Forest, Heillblod.

Heillblod

Ruinenlust wrote:Speaking of which, Happy(?) Holocaust Remembrance Day 2021! I see that the air forces of Germany & Israel have been engaging in joint ceremonial flights in honor of the day.

Never again, and never forget, and never forgive. The future is what we make it. Love trumps hate. We have the ability, as the living members of the human race, to break free from the skeletons and demons of the past, and to cultivate a new world of peace, inclusion, integration, freedom, and love. It's up to us.

lol love trumps hate

Nation of ecologists

Ruinenlust wrote:Speaking of which, Happy(?) Holocaust Remembrance Day 2021! I see that the air forces of Germany & Israel have been engaging in joint ceremonial flights in honor of the day.

Never again, and never forget, and never forgive. The future is what we make it. Love trumps hate. We have the ability, as the living members of the human race, to break free from the skeletons and demons of the past, and to cultivate a new world of peace, inclusion, integration, freedom, and love. It's up to us.

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Edit: We do not double post on the RMB of Forest, Heillblod.

Whoah, I completely forgot! I was gonna write something, but the message you wrote is unbeatable. So I guess this is my Holocaust Memorial Day post.

The Federative Republic of Atsvea

Ruinenlust wrote:Not to mention that the country in question CTE'd from Nazi Europa nearly 300 days ago...

Can’t believe I’m still banned from there, lol...

Heillblod wrote:Oh Nazi Europa was raided?

I think it’s “formerly nazi” as in “change of management”, not being raided... you know, because nazi europe got completely destroyed for harbouring actual nazis...

Also, you’re called blod. BLOD. How could you possibly be a nazi? 👀

The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa

"Formerly Nazi" in the sense that the WFE says it's dedicated to education about national socialism and fascism, and the current RMB page carries links to literal Hitler apologetics. One of the linked "documentaries" is apparently important for anyone of European descent to watch, which is a funny coincidence because we were just talking about genealogy...

Effazio, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 9 othersLord Dominator, Ziotah and Riverside, Terrabod, The Teeth, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Difinbelk, The most serene republicans, and Wooderland country

The People's Democratic Republic of Outer Bele Levy Epies

Uan aa Boa wrote:"Formerly Nazi"

It's still fascist.

The Concordant Stratum of The Cypher Nine

I wish America treated Slavery/Racism like the Germans treat Nazism.

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Uan aa Boa, and 4 othersThe Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and The most serene republicans

The Federal Socialist Republic of Ziotah and Riverside

Smells like another raider to me

Heillblod

I mean, idk, if this really is a "left wing" region I can leave, im probably wrong here then. It's just, the reason I left those nazi regions I used to be in formerly is that I was too "communist" for them. They basically threw me out. Now I start playing again after like a year, join you and get called a nazi lol. Wich I have no problem with. It's all just kinda ironic.

Post by Heillblod suppressed by The Cypher Nine.

Heillblod

Ziotah and Riverside wrote:Smells like another raider to me

me? lmao

The Concordant Stratum of The Cypher Nine

Heillblod wrote:I mean, idk, if this really is a "left wing" region I can leave, im probably wrong here then. It's just, the reason I left those nazi regions I used to be in formerly is that I was too "communist" for them. They basically threw me out. Now I start playing again after like a year, join you and get called a nazi lol. Wich I have no problem with. It's all just kinda ironic.

We aren’t a left wing region. Its just very difficult to have an intellectual discussion about things with no basis in reality. Right and left are also highly dependent on location. In europe, right means what moderate or even left means in America.

In general, they are useless terms. Our region has a high quality RMB where we discuss a range of topics. Politics, Philosophy, Etc. If you don’t come into those conversations attempting to make them better, or deeper then you may be unsatisfied with your experience here.

You have been warned about double posting multiple times now. Please try to be careful.

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Heillblod

The Cypher Nine wrote:We aren’t a left wing region. Its just very difficult to have an intellectual discussion about things with no basis in reality. Right and left are also highly dependent on location. In europe, right means what moderate or even left means in America.

In general, they are useless terms. Our region has a high quality RMB where we discuss a range of topics. Politics, Philosophy, Etc. If you don’t come into those conversations attempting to make them better, or deeper then you may be unsatisfied with your experience here.

You have been warned about double posting multiple times now. Please try to be careful.

I love deep conversations haha. And you see, the complexity of those political definitions is exactly the reason I get kinda tired/bored once I join some region, or discourse in general, and well, get instantly called a Nazi. Like, what am I supposed to do with that? haha. And I didnt know that you also can't double post if someone asks you something or talks about you?

The Concordant Stratum of The Cypher Nine

Heillblod wrote:I love deep conversations haha. And you see, the complexity of those political definitions is exactly the reason I get kinda tired/bored once I join some region, or discourse in general, and well, get instantly called a Nazi. Like, what am I supposed to do with that? haha. And I didnt know that you also can't double post if someone asks you something or talks about you?

Lets consider a scenario. Lets say we are talking about US Slavery and a nation starts making points about how Slavery was an economic issue. They continue by saying that we could have avoided war if we made compromises instead of taking away the bedrock of their industry.

Is that intellectual discourse? Sure. But there comes a point when some positions are untenable by the nature of their subject matter. They are arguments that most people would simply call ‘playing devil’s advocate’.

So for me, you have to ask yourself am I playing Devil’s advocate or am I actually interested in intellectual discussion for its own sake. If its the latter, in my mind you are open to being mistaken.

To be more direct: semantics of the term Nazi are irrelevant. If someone presents a cake to me but says its arsenic, I’m going to trust what they say rather than what they are presenting because the risk is too great not to. There’s no value in wanting to be associated with that kind of vileness. When you say complexity, all I think of is ‘Devil’s Advocate’ or ‘No true scotsman’ fallacies.

And yes, no double posts in any circumstance. You can edit your post after to add replies.

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The Green Otters' State of Garbelia

The Cypher Nine wrote: ‘No true scotsman'

Why can this RMB not move away from genetics and Scotland? /joke

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Biae

Garbelia wrote:Why can this RMB not move away from genetics and Scotland? /joke

It’s actually weird at this point how topics are evolving on this RMB...

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The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa

Heillblod wrote:...I get kinda tired/bored once I join some region, or discourse in general, and well, get instantly called a Nazi. Like, what am I supposed to do with that?

Call me Mr Obvious, but have you tried not calling your nation Heillblod, having a Nazi symbol as its flag, arriving from Nazi Europa and talking about blood and honour?

Effazio, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 8 othersLord Dominator, Terrabod, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, The most serene republicans, and Wooderland country

The Socialist Republic of Cuillin

Heillblod wrote:I mean, idk, if this really is a "left wing" region I can leave, im probably wrong here then. It's just, the reason I left those nazi regions I used to be in formerly is that I was too "communist" for them. They basically threw me out. Now I start playing again after like a year, join you and get called a nazi lol. Wich I have no problem with. It's all just kinda ironic.

What the hell is wrong with you that you think being called a Nazi is ok? Are you ok with the slaughtering of millions based on ramblings of a diseased minds? Are you ok with death camps and murder? You can go to hell.

Verdant Haven, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 7 othersUan aa Boa, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, The most serene republicans, and Wooderland country

The Rewilding of Ruinenlust

Uan aa Boa wrote:Call me Mr Obvious, but have you tried not calling your nation Heillblod, having a Nazi symbol as its flag, arriving from Nazi Europa and talking about blood and honour?

Are you...are you saying that words, symbols, names, and slogans that all point in a certain direction are all pointing in a certain direction? You've got some advanced 7-dimensional logic there. ;-)

Remember: if it looks like a Nazi, sounds like a Nazi, quotes Nazis, and comes from a Nazi region, it's obviously a hit job by Antifa, trying to give Nazis a bad name, and probably funded by Bill Gates. Don't believe me? Watch Faux "News". /sarcasm to the Moon/

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The most serene republicans

Uan aa Boa wrote:Call me Mr Obvious, but have you tried not calling your nation Heillblod, having a Nazi symbol as its flag, arriving from Nazi Europa and talking about blood and honour?

I'm gonna be very honest, I'm all for taking everyone in good faith but it's not very hard to not look like a nazi...

Heillblod

The Cypher Nine wrote:Lets consider a scenario. Lets say we are talking about US Slavery and a nation starts making points about how Slavery was an economic issue. They continue by saying that we could have avoided war if we made compromises instead of taking away the bedrock of their industry.

Is that intellectual discourse? Sure. But there comes a point when some positions are untenable by the nature of their subject matter. They are arguments that most people would simply call ‘playing devil’s advocate’.

So for me, you have to ask yourself am I playing Devil’s advocate or am I actually interested in intellectual discussion for its own sake. If its the latter, in my mind you are open to being mistaken.

To be more direct: semantics of the term Nazi are irrelevant. If someone presents a cake to me but says its arsenic, I’m going to trust what they say rather than what they are presenting because the risk is too great not to. There’s no value in wanting to be associated with that kind of vileness. When you say complexity, all I think of is ‘Devil’s Advocate’ or ‘No true scotsman’ fallacies.

And yes, no double posts in any circumstance. You can edit your post after to add replies.

Sure, I thought of something similiar when it comes to pedophilia for example. But, the thing is, the term Nazi means everything and nothing, at least today. If I imagined to be some sort of "communist", a term with kind of the same issues, I would never use the term "Nazi" in a serious discourse.

Cuillin wrote:What the hell is wrong with you that you think being called a Nazi is ok? Are you ok with the slaughtering of millions based on ramblings of a diseased minds? Are you ok with death camps and murder? You can go to hell.

lol I said Im ok with being called a nazi. As in, I don't care what I am being called. I had enough discussions about definitions in 2016. And if you end your statement with "go to hell", well, yea. maybe smoke a blunt.

Uan aa Boa wrote:Call me Mr Obvious, but have you tried not calling your nation Heillblod, having a Nazi symbol as its flag, arriving from Nazi Europa and talking about blood and honour?

Why would I try that?

Nation of ecologists

Heillblod wrote:I mean, idk, if this really is a "left wing" region I can leave, im probably wrong here then. It's just, the reason I left those nazi regions I used to be in formerly is that I was too "communist" for them. They basically threw me out. Now I start playing again after like a year, join you and get called a nazi lol. Wich I have no problem with. It's all just kinda ironic.

If you don't want people to call you a nazi, don't act like one! Denounce it, or at least say you no longer prescribe to the ideology. Im all for forgiving former Neo-nazis if I believe they have changed, because people can change. But not denouncing it and having multiple things look like you are indeed a nazi is not a point in your favour. And no less, this is all happening on Holocaust Memorial Day! How respectful!

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