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The Reaper of Lord Dominator

New ladavia wrote:Wow I’ve been waiting so long for this: Lord Dominator joined the WA!

I do that on occasion, yes

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, and 5 othersCanaltia, Seagull, Cosona, New ladavia, and Rivienland

The Sylvan Hivə of Turbeaux

Techolandia wrote:Pookyvania, Forest Breeze, do you want to join the silence-breaking company?

Sure!

Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Canaltia, and 3 othersCosona, Techolandia, and New ladavia

Techolandia

Turbeaux wrote:Sure!

The dispatch has been updated.

Silence-Be-Gone Inc.™ is the only surviving silence-breaking company in The South Pacific. It gained a monopoly by performing corporate raids on the other two silence-breaking companies.
It has recently begun to expand its operations into the embassy regions of The South Pacific. Recently, it has been growing quickly in Conch Kingdom.

Read dispatch

I can tell that you will be a productive employee. Your post broke over 100 minutes of silence.

Pookyvania, Sacara, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, and 6 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Cosona, and New ladavia

New ladavia

I have two issue drafts:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=454869
(A issue on the use of bots to scalp tickets. (Not about scalping of course))
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=454440
(an issue than installs McCarthyism based of the Cambridge five)

The Sylvan Hivə of Turbeaux

Techolandia wrote:The dispatch has been updated.
Silence-Be-Gone Inc.™ is the only surviving silence-breaking company in The South Pacific. It gained a monopoly by performing corporate raids on the other two silence-breaking companies.
It has recently begun to expand its operations into the embassy regions of The South Pacific. Recently, it has been growing quickly in Conch Kingdom.

Read dispatch

I can tell that you will be a productive employee. Your post broke over 100 minutes of silence.

I am breaking a few minutes of silence to say WOOHOO and thank you!

Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Canaltia, and 6 othersSeagull, Cosona, Techolandia, New ladavia, Syllabun, and Rivienland

Techolandia

Turbeaux wrote: I am breaking a few minutes of silence to say WOOHOO and thank you!

You are welcome!

Pookyvania, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 5 othersTurbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Cosona, and New ladavia

The niceties of normal moral constraints

Caracasus wrote:Fry garlic or onions for 5 mins. Then add oregano or basil. Then add meat or veggie substitute. Pour in a glass of red wine and simmer until half gone. Then add a chopped pepper. Add a tin of tomatoes and a half pint of stock. Simmer until reduced. You now have a perfectly presentable pasta sauce that tastes pretty good and is basically foolproof.

I've got all the lasagna fixin' here. Cover me, I'm going in.

[<goggles>]

If you don't hear from me in 24 hours, call the police. Tell them they'll need the tactical biscotti.

Caracasus, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 6 othersUan aa Boa, Rejectionville, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Cosona, and Rivienland

Techolandia

As the region was the overall third-largest (recently second-largest) contribution to the company's silence-breaking, you should also know about this.

After a fifth nation in Conch Kingdom joined Silence-Be-Gone Inc.™, which, when combined with the single employee in Lands End, a region with embassies with Conch Kingdom but not The South Pacific, equals the six employees in The South Pacific, some have speculated that it might be beneficial for the company to move its headquarters from The South Pacific to Conch Kingdom, making Seachia the new president of the company. Silence-Be-Gone Inc.™ has been experiencing a recent increase in Conch Kingdom-based activity, while The South Pacific has been sparse. Silence-Be-Gone Inc.™ has a monopoly on silence-breaking in The South Pacific, so if the company's headquarters are going to move to Conch Kingdom, all silence-breaking in The South Pacific is going to be done by a foreign company.
Read dispatch

The niceties of normal moral constraints wrote:I've got all the lasagna fixin' here. Cover me, I'm going in.

[<goggles>]

If you don't hear from me in 24 hours, call the police. Tell them they'll need the tactical biscotti.

Great silence-breaking! Do you want to join the company?

Pookyvania, Caracasus, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 5 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Cosona, and Rivienland

Ireland but not really

Sapnu puas wrote:By a meme quote, I didn't mean Fortnite or any other battle royale memes...

Well, it is literally "Quote of the Fortnight", what did you expect me to do?!

Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Sapnu puas, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 3 othersTurbeaux, Canaltia, and Cosona

Cosona

Ireland but not really wrote:Well, it is literally "Quote of the Fortnight", what did you expect me to do?!

I think my first RMB post in Forest was attempting to petition to change fortnight to fortnite

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Sapnu puas, and 7 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, New ladavia, Syllabun, and Catterland

The Pacific Alpine Commonwealth of Mount Seymour

Welcome back, My comfortable bed! Glad you weren't leaving forever ^_^

The new bluestocking homeland, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 7 othersUan aa Boa, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, New ladavia, Catterland, and Rivienland

The niceties of normal moral constraints

Techolandia wrote:Great silence-breaking! Do you want to join the company?

Can't. Too busy walking in and out of my apartment like a lunatic cause the blast of tomatoes, basil, and melty mozarella every time the door opens is that good.

Mamma Mia [<gestures emphatically>]

Caracasus, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 6 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Uan aa Boa, Canaltia, Seagull, Catterland, and Rivienland

Caracasus

The niceties of normal moral constraints wrote:Can't. Too busy walking in and out of my apartment like a lunatic cause the blast of tomatoes, basil, and melty mozarella every time the door opens is that good.

Mamma Mia [<gestures emphatically>]

Have you tried lasagne with chickpeas instead of meat/meat substitute and spinach stirred into the cheese sauce? It's really good.

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 4 othersUan aa Boa, Rejectionville, Turbeaux, and Canaltia

The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa

Good morning Forest!

I've been contacted by Escade to ask if we'd like to join with Europeia and the West, East and North Pacifics in hosting a Discord based community event called Harry Potter and the Festival of Friends. This event will be open to everyone but they're asking for input as hosts and organisers. It's not clear when this is happening.

Personally I'm not interested, but if a group of people step forward and say they want to do it on behalf of the region then now is the moment. If I don't get a response I'll reply and say thanks but no thanks.

Techolandia wrote:Great silence-breaking! Do you want to join the company?

There's a word for silence-breaking for the hell of it and that word rhymes with jam. You're obviously welcome to post in Forest, but I would ask that you try to make it a worthwhile contribution. Post because you have something to say, not because you have to say something.

As the region grows we're seeing the volume of posts rise and their average length decrease. It's probably no longer realistic to read every post if you're not a very frequent player. It's a natural consequence of Forest's commendation and its serious approach to events and mini-games, and as it says at the top of the page "Forest welcomes all nations." As the region's custodian at this time, however, I do worry that we're losing something we won't be able to replace. I can't put it any better than Candlewhisper Archive already has.

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Ironically, one of the reasons I came to Forest was that it seemed to have a more sedate pace of RMB posting, and that people tended to post only full paragraphs rather than isolated one word posts or short sentences.

Much as I liked 10,000 Islands, I was finding that there were so many posts that I was no longer reading every message, and instead just catching up on the last ten or so.

I'm kind of sad to see Forest going a similar way. Not that I want anyone to shut up, of course: I'm one of the noisiest posters here. Rather, in my time here I've noted the region growing in size and activity, and now it's turning into a sort of region that is a little on the large and noisy side for my tastes. I like to log on, see 5 to 10 new well thought out posts from the previous day, and then take my time in thinking on a response to them.

Of course, since coming here, I've developed a liking for the place that goes beyond my initial reasons of finding somewhere more tranquil and peaceful. If it's gotten all noisy here, then so be it.

It's just a shame. I remember when all this was trees...

I have no desire to become one of those "the RMB is only for serious discussion" regions - that whole rule-based approach is very un-Forest. Yet neither do I want to see 100 messages a day along the lines of "Hi, how are you?" "Fine, how are you?" It's not a bad thing in itself, but I doubt it's compatible with the exchange of thought provoking ideas that used to characterise Forest. It's a climate where posts like this one

Ruinenlust wrote:
In commemoration of surpassing 5 billion [entirely unrealistic] people in Ruinenlust, I have created a tentative new flag. I wanted it to be based on the old one enough that everyone could recognize the color scheme, but different enough that it's still a truly 'new' flag. I love the sun symbol, but I also like the wheel, and since it's gold, it still works, I think.

In other news, has anyone looked at the US guv'mint's National Climate Assessment report? They dropped it on Black Friday, which is questionable, but the report is not addled by Trump's stupidity or anything. In short, it forecasts extremely dramatic changes by region in the US, and it has helpful maps and such. For example, the warnings for the Northeastern US are that we should have warmer winter temperatures essentially by now (which is true), and by mid-century, the summers will begin noticeable warming up, something which cloud cover has limited in recent years. Also, we should have up to one inch of additional rainfall (or 25.4 millimeters, the internet informs me) per month outside of winter months. Considering that our annual rainfall here is a middling 40 inches plus 50 inches of snow in the winter, upping that to 50 inches of rain per year would be a significant increase. Since our infrastructure is the oldest in the US, on average, the report said that the Northeast is at especial risk for flooding damages. Oh yeah, and the ocean is going to rise, but that won't affect mountainous areas directly. Instead, since the Northeast is the region with both the highest levels of urbanization and the greatest percentage of forest cover, I imagine that many of those forests will come down as coastal areas become unlivable. The Northeast coast will see more severe level of rising seas for various reasons. The most probable projections forecast between 2-4.5 feet (0.6-1.4 meters) of sea level rise by 2100, and the worst cast scenarios forecast sea level rise up to 11 feet (3 m), which seems almost unimaginable.

The sea level rise, all around the world, is going to force a paradigm shift in patterns of human settlement. For centuries, global trade has encouraged the largest cities to form along coastal areas or massive navigable rivers (as opposed to in earlier times, which was more exclusively focused on rivers, which are nicer, calmer, and less confusing than oceans). Think of all the hundreds of millions around the world who live within a few feet of sea level.

To me, the single best way to "fight" this whole thing, at least on the part of rich countries, can be summed up by one word: resilience. How do we build an insane level of resilience into our infrastructure? We need roads, buildings, railroads, bridges, subway systems, dams, etc. that are much more resilient to damages than the stuff we have been used to building. Insofar as it's possible, we ought to stop throwing trillions of dollars away on stupid wars in Bumblefvck-istan and instead of use our wealth to sort of 'batten down the hatches.' At some point, as the report envisages, losing hundreds of billions of dollars annually by the end of the century to natural disasters will actually outstrip the overall economic output of certain states and areas, effectively making their current patterns and levels of habitation unsustainable in an acute economic sense.

We should also begin preemptively acting as though certain options are already foreclosed. No new residences in drought-stricken areas. People should only be moving out of New Orleans and Miami. You shouldn't be able to build or lay a new claim to water from the Colorado River. All new houses in fire-prone areas should either be made with extreme fire scenarios in mind or not built at all. If your lawn doesn't grow because of the rain, and requires irrigation, it shouldn't exist at all. There should be a comprehensive plan to gradually abandon the floodplains and to turn all of that land into either agriculture or into a network of riparian preserves, within which flooding would be natural and of little consequence.

In other words, we would probably do well to switch into defensive mode, rather than just going along as is. Instead, I think we're going to do what most countries with money do: spend it all, prepare for little to nothing, and then massively suffer when things start working against the delicate systems that we've carelessly thrown up and rely on.

get more likes than ever, but no responses. We're a region that's never fully embraced Discord and offsite fora, so that content has nowhere else to go. There are many Discord channels, many "Hi, how are you?" and meme regions, but only one Forest. Basically, the Pacifics are that way. Many people in this venerable and storied region feel the way I do. Please help us to keep Forest distinct from other regions.

Cosona wrote:I think my first RMB post in Forest was attempting to petition to change fortnight to fortnite

Yes, I remember making myself count to ten and recite "Forest welcomes all nations" like a mantra. 60 odd days later, though, I know you get it and it's good to have you on board.

Areulder wrote:So i just got Poacher Pandemic.
Poachers have hunted the great-horned Deer to the verge of extinction; the creature’s horn is commonly used as a medicinal ingredient for its alleged aphrodisiac qualities in Dàguó. With diminishing numbers of the animal left in the wild, some claim that the threat of its demise looms near.

The Debate
“Are we placing the interests of a few dirty old beasts over that of our citizens?” enquires notorious game hunter Quincy Jele, while showing you his collection of stuffed dead animal heads. “If anything the government should sell licenses to private hunters and give us the sport of putting the last of these wretched creatures out of their misery. You can give back the license fees to the taxpayers in the form of income tax cuts.”

I am 100000% sure that this is the option that destroys the enviroment, but it actually is pretty close to the best way to protect endangered species.

To be fair, the option expressly says "putting the last of these wretched creatures out of their misery," which doesn't sound likely to promote biodiversity. On the broader point I hope you can understand my scepticism at the suggestion that the best way to protect endangered species is to allow people to kill them. At a guess, are you suggesting that poaching will be unavoidable with prohibition but eliminated by the existence of a legitimate means of hunting?

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 7 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Cosona, Catterland, and Rivienland

New ladavia

I wholeheartedly agree with your point. For instance, as ambassador to Europe, I expect around 250 RMB post daily all mostly one-line messages with little substance. I end up spending 10 minutes reading all the posts and leave with a bunch of discord chat in my mind. on the contrary, Due to the Speed of forest RMB which fluctuates at times, we are able to have meaningful conversations. To illustrate embassies, popovers, vegetarianism. as well as I see the occasional long post like so above. While I've been here for around a month or so and not as long as Candlewhisper Archive I fell if we get any faster we could significantly lose the feel that is now. To tie it into our environment. like our world, this RMB is volatile and subject to shifts. However, if continues descending in this direction it will go beyond the point of fixing it since it is a collective effort to change our RMB because one person can't do it alone. It takes a region.

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 10 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Uan aa Boa, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Cosona, Elundris, Syllabun, Catterland, and Rivienland

Aeterno tranquillitas

Uan aa Boa wrote:Good morning Forest!

I've been contacted by Escade to ask if we'd like to join with Europeia and the West, East and North Pacifics in hosting a Discord based community event called Harry Potter and the Festival of Friends. This event will be open to everyone but they're asking for input as hosts and organisers. It's not clear when this is happening.

Personally I'm not interested, but if a group of people step forward and say they want to do it on behalf of the region then now is the moment. If I don't get a response I'll reply and say thanks but no thanks.

There's a word for silence-breaking for the hell of it and that word rhymes with jam. You're obviously welcome to post in Forest, but I would ask that you try to make it a worthwhile contribution. Post because you have something to say, not because you have to say something.

As the region grows we're seeing the volume of posts rise and their average length decrease. It's probably no longer realistic to read every post if you're not a very frequent player. It's a natural consequence of Forest's commendation and its serious approach to events and mini-games, and as it says at the top of the page "Forest welcomes all nations." As the region's custodian at this time, however, I do worry that we're losing something we won't be able to replace. I can't put it any better than Candlewhisper Archive already has.

I have no desire to become one of those "the RMB is only for serious discussion" regions - that whole rule-based approach is very un-Forest. Yet neither do I want to see 100 messages a day along the lines of "Hi, how are you?" "Fine, how are you?" It's not a bad thing in itself, but I doubt it's compatible with the exchange of thought provoking ideas that used to characterise Forest. It's a climate where posts like this one

get more likes than ever, but no responses. We're a region that's never fully embraced Discord and offsite fora, so that content has nowhere else to go. There are many Discord channels, many "Hi, how are you?" and meme regions, but only one Forest. Basically, the Pacifics are that way. Many people in this venerable and storied region feel the way I do. Please help us to keep Forest distinct from other regions.

Yes, I remember making myself count to ten and recite "Forest welcomes all nations" like a mantra. 60 odd days later, though, I know you get it and it's good to have you on board.

To be fair, the option expressly says "putting the last of these wretched creatures out of their misery," which doesn't sound likely to promote biodiversity. On the broader point I hope you can understand my scepticism at the suggestion that the best way to protect endangered species is to allow people to kill them. At a guess, are you suggesting that poaching will be unavoidable with prohibition but eliminated by the existence of a legitimate means of hunting?

While I agree with the points that Forest is becoming a more RMB intense region, I don't really think everyone is actually internalizing what it really means to have change.

I do want to kick this off by stating that I do agree that I lover it when Forest was sort of an elite region in a way, when the RMB was really solely meaningful posts with no real filler posts.

But it's natural for some people to just post smaller, perhaps less thought provoking things, but still posts that highlight what it is to be human. I personally love memes myself, and I feel Forest's attitude towards them is mostly ambivalent, which is alright in and of itself; it's a majority opinion. But getting more and more people means opinions will gradually shift towards the average opinion, which appears to be more of a balance between Discord-like posts, and longer more philosophical posts like this.

(Although even for small talk like topics, Forest displays an unusually large amount of many word posts which is something quite unique to us, and I don't think we'll ever lose that)
However, to insist on wanting to grow Forest and coerce more people to join in the hopes of promoting more environmental consciousness, I fear that we are then complaining about the inevitable changes this brings.

Not every person in Forest is solely interested in long, well thought out dialogues; some people want to keep it simpler, or say some dumb !@#$ every once in a while.

I am also fine with this, because everyone has a simpler side, and I feel it funny how in a sense, we are trying to surpress a side of people that we then claim to welcome.

More people simply means more RMB posts, and the average person won't take the time to type out posts this long for example. If we wish to increase the range and outreach of Forest, there is no real way to keep the RMV like "the good old days".

The good old days that people usually refer to are when sciences were less advanced, medical care was worse, and people got away with a lot of stuff they shouldn't have (#MeeToo bringing this to the table for example)

And forbidding things doesn't work as we all know, it only makes people more wanting to do the thing in question. So we have to allow the changes our desired route brings, regardless of if we like all of them or not.

Technology taking over our lives is another example. Our new social media obsessed culture is one I frankly find appalling, and as such have no conventional platform accounts. But it doesn't change the fact that it's how the world became, no matter how much we might wish otherwise.

I learned a long time ago that there's no way to force popular opinion to change, even if it's not one that's correct. All you can really do is educate people, and try to use the proper balance of logic and emotion to appeal to them if you wish to influence.

To me the only way Forest can do that is not by frowning upon posts types we do not like, and painting an image that those posts are not welcome, but simply

The future brings with it change, and while we may try to fight it because we are not used to it, if we wish to grow as a region, we may lose things we thought most important to our identity. But Forest will still be Forest, it will simply be 2018 Forest and not 2016 Forest for example.

I'm not sure if my points are clear in this ramble, but I think some of what I think on this topic can be gleamed from this Trump-would-be-proud wall of text.

As always, I welcome a dialogue on any and all topics I bring up :)

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 9 othersUan aa Boa, Rejectionville, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Cosona, New ladavia, Catterland, and Rivienland

Rivienland

Uan aa Boa wrote:It's a climate where posts like this one [see Uan aa Boa's example above] get more likes than ever, but no responses.

I think both New ladavia and Aeterno tranquillitas bring up valid points, but I just wanted to focus on this comment for a moment. I wanted to explain that, since I'm someone who prefers to like posts rather than comment, my hesitation to engage with the well thought out discourse of Forest doesn't stem from my preference to shorter dialogue, but an awareness of how little I have to say on many topics. While I agree that Forest's RMB is quite unique than other regions, it also can become a little intimidating since these arguments are so well thought out. Now, that won't completely stop me from posting, but I'm sure it decreases the chance of me posting. Why should I vocalize, or engage with an idea that has been so well articulated that I cannot contribute?

I guess my point is that the RMB is quite impressive, but responses will be lower since, as I've sure some have seen, engagement becomes more fickle with such detailed discussions. I still thing they should happen, but, for me, liking posts becomes a nice middle ground of approving and recognizing great arguments on the board.

Also, I'm one of those people that can be swayed by most well articulated arguments, and, as a result, I find it hard to stick to any side in a debate or issue.

I'm not sure if this point made any sense, but thank you for your time!

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 8 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Uan aa Boa, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Cosona, New ladavia, and Catterland

Sapnu puas

I wish I can write simple, condensed sentences. That's my personal weakness when writing an issue draft...

Sacara, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 4 othersTurbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, and Cosona

Areulder

This whole debate on the RMB is sort of futile. As I understand it Tech changes are on the way that will make RMBs more forumlike.

Uan aa Boa wrote:To be fair, the option expressly says "putting the last of these wretched creatures out of their misery," which doesn't sound likely to promote biodiversity. On the broader point I hope you can understand my scepticism at the suggestion that the best way to protect endangered species is to allow people to kill them. At a guess, are you suggesting that poaching will be unavoidable with prohibition but eliminated by the existence of a legitimate means of hunting?

Hunting provides governments with a lot of revenue(the US for example makes $1.65 billion from permits and licencing) Because this revenue is dependent on sustaining the population of the animals being hunted governments are incentivised to manage wildlife responsibly, protect and restore their habitats and protect wildlife from poachers. That's not counting the billion spent on guides, reserves and equipment, which produces entire industries with a vested interest in conservation, or the multitude of conservation organisations funded by hunters, who after all also have a vested interest in their protection.

Examples of success can be seen in the Cape buffalo, whitetail deer, wild turkey, bighorn sheep and the southern white rhino.

Mount Seymour, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 4 othersTurbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, and Cosona

The Sarcasm Tag of Canaltia

Areulder wrote:
Hunting provides governments with a lot of revenue(the US for example makes $1.65 billion from permits and licencing) Because this revenue is dependent on sustaining the population of the animals being hunted governments are incentivised to manage wildlife responsibly, protect and restore their habitats and protect wildlife from poachers. That's not counting the billion spent on guides, reserves and equipment, which produces entire industries with a vested interest in conservation, or the multitude of conservation organisations funded by hunters, who after all also have a vested interest in their protection.

Examples of success can be seen in the Cape buffalo, whitetail deer, wild turkey, bighorn sheep and the southern white rhino.

That's a pretty valid point. In addition, I know people who are hunters (like 5% of western Canadians hunt regularly), and they are some of the most eco-friendly people I know. By getting out there and hunting (for food, I might add. Deer meat it actually pretty good), they develop an understanding and appreciation of nature, and them killing one deer a month max isn't going to do too much to the environment. Also, there's all of the legalities surrounding hunting in a country without constitutionally protected gun rights, so people who want to kill for the sake of it usually aren't able to get a hunting permit.

However, in Canada, endangered species are not allowed to be hunted, as the massive tourism industry in the Rockies is enough incentive to keep them alive. There's also the fact that 10.5% of Canada's land is protected, bringing more restrictions on hunting with it. These areas have a lot of endangered species living on them (especially the Manitoba wetlands), so it's often more trouble than it's worth to try to hunt there. On top of that, 88% of Canada is inhabitable by people, so there should be enough room for hunters and endangered species to coexist.

Canada's biggest problem is, ironically, the other 95% who aren't hunters, as they are the ones polluting the environment, cutting down the unprotected forests, and mining the north with unsustainable business practice. I think Canada needs more restrictions on corporate en devours in the wilderness, but we have the right amount of restriction on hunters. I've thought about picking it up, but I just don't have the time or resources.

On a side note, I'm looking at an ad for a zoo directly under the RMB right now. I just find it really funny how relevant ads can be sometimes.

Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, and 5 othersSeagull, Cosona, New ladavia, Rivienland, and The southern cascadian states

The niceties of normal moral constraints

Caracasus wrote:Have you tried lasagne with chickpeas instead of meat/meat substitute and spinach stirred into the cheese sauce? It's really good.

This time was "meat"less (mozarella and parmigano are expensive enough), and a mix of tofu, fresh basil, nooch, salt, pepper, and rice vinegar in place of ricotta. Normally I'd use firm tofu, for perfect consistency and moisture. I've also used kale with success.

Chickpeas don't release too much water during baking?

Caracasus, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 3 othersTurbeaux, Canaltia, and Cosona

Post self-deleted by The niceties of normal moral constraints.

Caracasus

The niceties of normal moral constraints wrote:This time was "meat"less (mozarella and parmigano are expensive enough), and a mix of tofu, fresh basil, nooch, salt, pepper, and rice vinegar in place of ricotta. Normally I'd use firm tofu, for perfect consistency and moisture. I've also used kale with success.

Chickpeas don't release too much water during baking?

I'll ask my other half how she does it to confirm but I think you stick em in the tomato sauce for a bit so they absorb more than they lose.

Edit. Yup. Confirmed. Just make sure there's plenty of tomato sauce

Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, and 2 othersCanaltia, and The niceties of normal moral constraints

The Sylvan Hivə of Turbeaux

Sapnu puas wrote:I wish I can write simple, condensed sentences. That's my personal weakness when writing an issue draft...

Replace the ellipsis ending the second sentence with a period and you just did!

EDIT: Also replace "can" with "could".

Mount Seymour, Lord Dominator, Sapnu puas, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 2 othersCanaltia, and Rivienland

The niceties of normal moral constraints

Caracasus wrote:I'll ask my other half how she does it to confirm but I think you stick em in the tomato sauce for a bit so they absorb more than they lose.

Edit. Yup. Confirmed. Just make sure there's plenty of tomato sauce

Yeah, that's the thing. Cooked chickpeas are something like 60% water by mass, so you're either putting a ton of water in, or taking a ton out. Even without chickpeas, I managed to reduce the tomato sauce too much, and ended up slightly undercooking the lasagna sheets. Was still plenty edible, but had the distinct starchy not-enough-water taste.

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