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United engiresco

The new mexican confederation wrote:Capitalism sucks but there’s no other alternative so I guess we just gotta live with it

It may be the very system that's currently exploiting us for its own gain but feudalism did the same thing not too long ago

The New Nordic Union, Libertandonien, West Litaurdia, Anskerdank, and 3 othersYellowjapan, Owlograd, and Viktorias

The new mexican confederation

United engiresco wrote:It may be the very system that's currently exploiting us for its own gain but feudalism did the same thing not too long ago

Oh yeah, no system is gonna be perfect, systems like capitalism are extremely flawed and there’s nothing we can do about it until we find a better alternative which won’t happen very soon.

United engiresco and Yellowjapan

Viktorias

The new mexican confederation wrote:Capitalism sucks but there’s no other alternative so I guess we just gotta live with it

Tbh it's plenty of alternatives, they're just not competitive against capitalist countries. Many socialist countries understood that and are just shifting into controlled capitalism.
Exploiting other people is of course economically advantageous and can make you (as a country or as a company) competitive, it's just not right at all.

United engiresco and Yellowjapan

United engiresco

Viktorias wrote:Tbh it's plenty of alternatives, they're just not competitive against capitalist countries. Many socialist countries understood that and are just shifting into controlled capitalism.
Exploiting other people is of course economically advantageous and can make you (as a country or as a company) competitive, it's just not right at all.

Do you seriously think world governments actually care about their people?

Yellowjapan and Viktorias

The new mexican confederation

Viktorias wrote:Tbh it's plenty of alternatives, they're just not competitive against capitalist countries. Many socialist countries understood that and are just shifting into controlled capitalism.
Exploiting other people is of course economically advantageous and can make you (as a country or as a company) competitive, it's just not right at all.

Imo, socialism could only work in small nations with a small population, it couldn’t work in a country like Canada, the US, or Poland

Viktorias

United engiresco wrote:Do you seriously think world governments actually care about their people?

In all honesty, yes.
Not caring at 100% (also not all governments/politicians are the same) but they have to support their popularity and keep at least the bare minimum satisfaction in the population.
Not only for democratic countries (since they have to be voted and thus look forward for people support) but also dictatorships/autocracies. If national cohesion is low there will be unrests, revolutions and so on, and presidents/kings/dictators can fall or have their country destroyed by that.

United engiresco and Yellowjapan

The Grand Falconer of Europe of The New Nordic Union

Viktorias wrote:In all honesty, yes.
Not caring at 100% (also not all governments/politicians are the same) but they have to support their popularity and keep at least the bare minimum satisfaction in the population.
Not only for democratic countries (since they have to be voted and thus look forward for people support) but also dictatorships/autocracies. If national cohesion is low there will be unrests, revolutions and so on, and presidents/kings/dictators can fall or have their country destroyed by that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

Yahlia, Rivierenland, United engiresco, and The new mexican confederation

United engiresco

Viktorias wrote:In all honesty, yes.
Not caring at 100% (also not all governments/politicians are the same) but they have to support their popularity and keep at least the bare minimum satisfaction in the population.
Not only for democratic countries (since they have to be voted and thus look forward for people support) but also dictatorships/autocracies. If national cohesion is low there will be unrests, revolutions and so on, and presidents/kings/dictators can fall or have their country destroyed by that.

The USA had protests last year.

What did they get in response?

Suppression. That doesn't sound caring to me.

Yellowjapan

The new mexican confederation

United engiresco wrote:The USA had protests last year.

What did they get in response?

Suppression. That doesn't sound caring to me.

To be fair if they weren’t suppressed it would’ve gotten extremely worse, I’m not saying all the protests were bad but, a lot of them got ugly

United engiresco and Yellowjapan

Viktorias

The New Nordic Union wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

Yup, that's exactly what I was meaning.

United engiresco wrote:The USA had protests last year.

What did they get in response?

Suppression. That doesn't sound caring to me.

Because population isn't just one big demographic. You can keep a general satisfaction, but the people of a country are divided by many ideologies, interests and so on. Some of them are interlinked, others are not. Trump administration tought that the general population would have been more satisfied with the suppression of the protests rather than letting them continue.
In fact, this is true in most of the states, but not everywhere, a good example is the CHAZ in Seattle, the administration didn't intervened against that.

The New Nordic Union, Libertandonien, United engiresco, and The new mexican confederation

United engiresco

Viktorias wrote:Yup, that's exactly what I was meaning.

Because population isn't just one big demographic. You can keep a general satisfaction, but the people of a country are divided by many ideologies, interests and so on. Some of them are interlinked, others are not. Trump administration tought that the general population would have been more satisfied with the suppression of the protests rather than letting them continue.
In fact, this is true in most of the states, but not everywhere, a good example is the CHAZ in Seattle, the administration didn't intervened against that.

I disagree with the suppression for the reason that maybe the government could have got off their bums and listened to them and go with negotiating. There was absolutely no need to let it turn into a near civil war.

Viktorias

Zarulia

The new mexican confederation wrote:Capitalism sucks but there’s no other alternative so I guess we just gotta live with it

Fair capitalism isnt
Lets say that you help small businesses to grow with subsidies, less red tape and types of corruptions that affects economy, and make your workforce flexible, plus a bit of minimum wage and retirement policies
Then it will be a great nation

Estoniia

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The new mexican confederation

United engiresco wrote:I disagree with the suppression for the reason that maybe the government could have got off their bums and listened to them and go with negotiating. There was absolutely no need to let it turn into a near civil war.

Yeah that was the problem, they really didn't say or specify what they wanted, they kinda just, got mad.

United engiresco

Anskerdank

I think I ate some bad chicken because every breath I take makes me feel even more ill

The New Nordic Union and The new mexican confederation

The Oriental Republic of Dizgovzy

Good morning The Oriental Empire, Rivierenland, The New Nordic Union and also good morning to everyone else but I'm not pinging you

The New Nordic Union, South St Maarten, Rivierenland, Libertandonien, and 3 othersAnskerdank, Viktorias, and The new mexican confederation

The Grand Falconer of Europe of The New Nordic Union

Dizgovzy wrote:Good morning The Oriental Empire, Rivierenland, The New Nordic Union and also good morning to everyone else but I'm not pinging you

Good afternoon, Diz (:

Dizgovzy, Rivierenland, and Libertandonien

Viktorias

United engiresco wrote:I disagree with the suppression for the reason that maybe the government could have got off their bums and listened to them and go with negotiating. There was absolutely no need to let it turn into a near civil war.

I agree with you and I would have liked to see the goverment listen to them, but this is our idea that would have satisfied us.
Trump (remind that this happened shortly before elections) tought that his supporters and many other people preferred suppression over listening. He lost the election, but 46% of american voters still voted for him, meaning that all those people actually appreciated how the riots were managed. If he didn't suppressed the protests he could have lost many other votes from his previous supporters, along with people who wouldn't vote for him in the first place, losing the elections with a bigger gap.

United engiresco

The new mexican confederation

Dizgovzy wrote:Good morning Thoriental empire, Riviernland, The new nrdic union and also good morning to everyone else but I'm not pinging you

Buenos dias how are you?

Dizgovzy and Libertandonien

The Oriental Republic of Dizgovzy

The New Nordic Union wrote:Good afternoon, Diz (:

I've actually been up for a few hours but I realized the past few weeks how much I've been on screens (specifically NS/discord) so yeah
Figured I should stay off for a bit xd

The Oriental Republic of Dizgovzy

The new mexican confederation wrote:Buenos dias how are you?

solidly meh

Rivierenland, Libertandonien, and The new mexican confederation

The Constitutional Monarchy of South St Maarten

Dizgovzy wrote:Good morning The Oriental Empire, Rivierenland, The New Nordic Union and also good morning to everyone else but I'm not pinging you

Good morning :)

The Cartographic Society of Rivierenland

Good morning Diz!

Dizgovzy and Libertandonien

The new mexican confederation

Anyone else feel like this week is extremely slow?

Libertandonien

Dizgovzy wrote:Good morning and also good morning to everyone else but I'm not pinging you

smh :( Good morning

Dizgovzy, Rivierenland, and The new mexican confederation

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