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Aromea

Shidei wrote:Accomplished academics? Why would an astrophysicist know what makes a good leader? Who and what defines a great leader? Pol Pot could be considered great in the sheer scale of redoing Cambodian society that he managed to do. I really don't want my president to act like Pol Pot.

Show me these lie detecting brain wave monitors. And I find it really hard to believe that people are going to go "yeah, checks out" when you tell them that you're attaching a general health diagnostic machine to their head prior to asking them numerous questions about political ideology.

How do you eliminate bias in your reference points? If you use an unequal number of European rulers in your metric compared to African rulers, the results will skew towards eurocentric traits and accomplishments despite the difference in culture.

I don't know how someone can read "Dangling high wages (protected via the constitution) of the select few that will be running the system" as not catering to the rich. The way this whole argument was going is based on the actions of the prospective candidates, and you suddenly shift to talking about the people running the "system" with no context. You also never used the word Merit

Are you no longer talking about the candidates? You say "If the reward is high and the punishment severe enough, the breaking of the rules is avoidable." which again seems to imply the candidates are the ones to get punished. Unless you're talking about the l "System" runners now? In which case what stakes do the candidates have?

Being rich to the extent you seem to be talking about the System maintainers is a pathological addiction. The rich extort others for chump change as long as their bank account number goes up. Congress is richer than it's ever been but bribes are still flying left right and center under the guise of "donations" or "business endeavors" or whatever the feelgood definitely-not-bribes word of the day is

Proof that it affects crime rate?

If you make rape punishable by death, you aren't going to really have less rape, you're going to have more rape victims murdered because the rapist no longer has anything more to lose and leaving the victim alive means more chances they will inform others of what you did.
Numerous states in the US have the death penalty but we still have the highest incarceration rate per capita in the entire world and the recidivism rate is terrifyingly large.

I don't care if you say it's "not meant to punish the family", building from the ground up means everything was torn down and you're starting over. How is that not being punished? See my previous statement that punishing innocent people because of something the guilty party does is abhorrent.

Corruption will never go away while money is present. Full stop. It'll just be done in convoluted legal methods.

Who mentioned Astrophysicists!? There are Political, Historical and Economic sciences You know -_-

You asked how the system would avoid corruption, I answered with rewards and punishments [that applies to all institutions]. The candidates would be affected if they pass and actually win the mandate.
China has a system of severe [too severe in most cases] punishments and there are no school shootings there [This is the only example I can think of right off the bat].

I don't know how someone can read "Dangling high wages (protected via the constitution) of the select few that will be running the system" as not catering to the rich. The way this whole argument was going is based on the actions of the prospective candidates, and you suddenly shift to talking about the people running the "system" with no context. You also never used the word Merit

The people that will be maintaining the system will have wages protected via the constitution so that any candidate that wins the election can't influence them and corrupt it. You asked how the system would be protected from corruption.

Think of it like giving a cookies to a child and telling it that it will receive cookies for doing chores, but if it takes cookies on it's own there will be punishment [the child will get grounded], just on a larger scale and with more extreme punishments.

That's why I said said great leaders, in the lines of Justinian, Julius Ceasar, Alexander III the Great, Ekaterina the Great, Peter the Great. Because if it's just any leader as a reference, someone could take Trump and we are back at square 1.

Show me these lie detecting brain wave monitors. And I find it really hard to believe that people are going to go "yeah, checks out" when you tell them that you're attaching a general health diagnostic machine to their head prior to asking them numerous questions about political ideology.

They are called Brainwave Monitors, they have been used for research of how the human brain functions for decades now, Google it. Where did You get political ideology!? And again, a Head of State needs to healthy, tell them that it's more time-effective and cost-effective to run the diagnostics on their health whilst they take the test. The questions don't have to be directly about ideology [economy, or whatever it is], they can be about basically anything as long as the underlying trait is hidden in them.

Take my example with the child and the cookies from above, the question would be: "If You told Your child that it would get cookies as rewards for doing chores, but to not take any on it's own. What would You do if it did?" and then there would be the offered answers: punish, scold, nothing, reward, lecture.

I don't care if you say it's "not meant to punish the family", building from the ground up means everything was torn down and you're starting over. How is that not being punished? See my previous statement that punishing innocent people because of something the guilty party does is abhorrent.

The idea is to increase the consequences on one's actions, feel free how to do so without using their family to do so [because some people don't care about their lives, but do care about their families].

Being rich to the extent you seem to be talking about the System maintainers is a pathological addiction. The rich extort others for chump change as long as their bank account number goes up. Congress is richer than it's ever been but bribes are still flying left right and center under the guise of "donations" or "business endeavors" or whatever the feelgood definitely-not-bribes word of the day is

That's where the punishments come in. They can't handle not being that filthy rich, it would mentally break them. Let's say out of 1000 rich people, 10 get punished in such a severe way (for taking bribes in this case) by a governmental body that they do not have any influence over. Would they not be terrified from the punishment?

Feel free to offer Your own suggestions here, show me another way to solve the issues that would give the theorized/desired effects.

As for the rapists, that's a whole other can of worms. [they should be publically castrated]

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