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Sean fiobha wrote:Sorry Long-term capital gains a tryed tae have a look around on baeth the uk an American website, the only thing a can tell ye is that its in stock in the uk.

See, I looked there cause I'll totally pay, but I cannot see a "add to cart" anywhere unless I've gone blind.

Eryndlynd wrote:I've been a vegetarian for fourteen years. During that time, I've been an amateur boxer, a backpacker and backwoods trail builder, and most recently I have been splitting my own firewood with an axe for heat for my wood stove. A balanced vegetarian/vegan diet provides more than enough fuel to build strength and live vigorously, if that's what one wishes to do. I'll be your second data point for this test🙂

That's a line, aka a trend. Stick a QED in it folks, were done. Now, where'd I put the Twinkies...

Salvezia wrote:I envy you For the succes in stay vegetarian, i’m trying hard but the dark side is strong (they have ham!)

It helps when economic factors -- produce cooked at home is cheap -- are the primary motivation.

It also helps to really like oatmeal cause you'll be eating a crapton of it :D

Turbeaux wrote:Healthy feels better than ham tastes. Also, we do not sit around eating cardboard every day (at least I don't).

To be fair, cardboard is basically cellulose, of which I eat absurd amounts.

With blueberries. That's the trick.

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:As a non-vegetarian who generally avoids fast food, I didn't expect to be in this position, but I can offer an endorsement here of Burger King's new Rebel Whopper, which is basically a whopper made from vegetable protein.

I have no idea if it is healthy at all, or if there's a hidden environmental impact, but I ate one yesterday (with mayo left off) and it was really quite good.

Had a Beyond Burger a while ago. Thought the texture and taste was more like sausage.

So a local coffee shop sold me a Beyond egg and sausage sandwich, which is basically perfect unless you're a vegan.

I suspect the sodium is still through the roof, but I'll bet many people cannot tell the difference.

Bananaistan wrote:Anyone ever read Animal Liberation by Peter Singer?

A philosophy/atheism/and more recently veganism YouTuber I follows and used to have great time for and thought was an intellectual powerhouse recommended it in his 2020 50 books to read video. According to him on the basis of chapter one alone he became a vegan and he challenged his friends that he would buy them the book and they would also go vegan. Five of his friends accepted and became vegans.

I read chapter one with an open mind. I did not become a vegan. I know think yer man on youtube and his friends are actually weak minded fools. It was not the airtight philosophical justification for veganism that I had expected.

I have read Animal Liberation, and loads of other Singer works. I honestly don't see how Veganism necessarily follows from any of them. Veganism is a morally absolutist position, where as Singer (at least when he wrote Animal Lib) approached the problem from a consequentialist perspective.

Thus, he concludes that most animal agriculture and scientific testing is unnecessary and immoral, but he cannot absolutely condemn all such practices, as in principle there can be some situation where the consequences justify them. He's going to hold your feet to the fire to demonstrate that justification, but he'll hear you out. By contrast, a Vegan will reject the notion of justification from the start, as an inherent and insurmountable rules violation (don't use sentient species as a means, period)

In most day to day concerns, he's effectively a vegan, but in philosophical terms, that's a clear line in the sand.

So yeah, how one reads Animal Lib and arrives at a morally absolutist position...is bizarre. Someone wasn't reading very carefully.

EDIT: or, to be more fair, Animal Lib was a popular work that just assumed all the dry and boring philosophical stuff as given. Reading that philosophical stuff first, to establish the proper context, would help.

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