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Nordic Tinox wrote:

Wait Until you get 500 mil population

ok thanks

Hello I’m new to the Nordic lands and I hope I’m welcome

Vin lon wrote:

Hello I’m new to the Nordic lands and I hope I’m welcome

of course! welcome
hello everyone! im back!

Hello

I got logged out somehow

Northern Dosletofe wrote:

My condolences! Hope you and your friend will feel better soon ♡

Thank you Northern Dosletofe!

From the great Peter Joseph,love the author, can´t get enough of him, here are some quotes resuming in a broad sense his thoughts on socio-economics.

“Make no mistake. The greatest destroyer of ecology. The greatest source of waste, depletion and pollution. The greatest purveyor of violence, war, crime, poverty, animal abuse and inhumanity. The greatest generator of personal and social neurosis, mental disorders, depression, anxiety. Not to mention the greatest source of social paralysis, stopping us from moving into new methodologies for personal health, global sustainability and progress on this planet, is not some corrupt government or legislation.
Not some rogue corporation or banking cartel.
Not some flaw of human nature and not some secret cabal that controls the world.
It is the socioeconomic system itself at its very foundation.”

“Our entire system, in an economic sense, is based on restriction. Scarcity and inefficiency are the movers of money; the more there is of any resource the less you can charge for it. The more problems there are, the more opportunities there are to make money.

This reality is a social disease, for people can actually gain off the misery of others and the destruction of the environment. Efficiency, abundance and sustainability are enemies of our economic structure, for they are inverse to the mechanics required to perpetuate consumption.

This is profoundly critical to understand, for once you put this together you begin to see that the one billion people currently starving on this planet, the endless slums of the poor and all the horrors of a culture due to poverty and pravity are not natural phenomenon due to some natural human order or lack of earthly resources.
They are products of the creation, perpetuation and preservation of artificial scarcity and inefficiency.”

On himself.

“I spent the beginning of my focus on activism by doing what most everyone else was doing; blaming other people and institutions."

"The sobering truth of the matter is that the only thing to blame is the dynamic, causal unfolding of system expression itself on the cultural level. In other words, none of us create or do anything in isolation – it’s impossible. We are system-bound both physically and psychologically; a continuum. Therefore our view of causality with respect to societal change can only be truly productive if we seek and source the most relevant sociological influences we can and begin to alter those effects from the root causes.”

“Everyone is so locked into the current way of doing things, they never see the larger picture or other, more responsible and efficient possibilities. A REAL economy is always wanting to limit consumption/manufacturing as much as possible by assuring the strategically "best" and "adaptable" productions at all times, while keeping balance with human needs and public health.

It is a total shift in intent than what we have today.”

Lastly but not least.

“communism, as historically practiced, required large-scale social control with heavy propaganda and legitimizing myths to maintain a controlling elite, just as capitalism does. Communism (as practiced) was a form of authoritarianism that simply approached social dominance in a different way.”

Santa Byzantina wrote:

Of course, it's just a game here, but with all due respect, I still wouldn't call such an excessively rude and a shockingly uncompassionate country as Grimlandia as a healthy and pleasant place to actually spend time in. You might have a couple of decent parks over there, but if you'd have to hide yourself in the basement (from other people) to protect your mental health, then it's far from a desirable place for an average person to stay at. However, it would require proper research and a lot more data to determine, whether any of this has actual relations to the level of taxation there in Grimlandia.

The national ranking of a particular stat is specifically the indicator of values, instead of objective quality. E.g. if there's a small nation with only one stat in the world's TOP 10% - let's say that "Health" is exactly at 10% - and there's another huge nation with 25 stats in the world's TOP 10% - let's say that "Health" is at 9%, though merely P20 within that particular nation - then it should be quite obvious that "Health" is significantly more valued in that small nation than in that huge one.

Santa Byzantina doesn't have any stats in the yellow territory, barely anything even in the orange club, most of the prominent stats are still in the green - that should be the clearest indicator of the historical differences in our problem-solving intensities.

In the end, it probably all comes down to the extent of the mining industry in our respective nations, which stands at the world's 15% in Grimlandia, and almost at the bottom (TOP 98%) in Santa Byzantina. I've actually even received a special banner to celebrate that feast of "powering the economy without mining" (i.e. developing a strong / very strong economy without relying on the mining industry). This game gives a nonsensical authority to the economy (which directly results in the size and distribution of the budget), which drags other, only remotely related stats up in the rankings as well.

E.g. you could boost your economy by constructing a coal mine inside a national park, and your "Eco-Friendliness" would probably still increase, simply because you've extended the size of your budget thanks to that mine, lol.

However, in the real world dimension, it would literally be impossible to have "Env. Beauty" at TOP 3% and "Eco-Friendliness" at TOP 5%, despite relying quite heavily on the mining industry to power one's economy. Literally impossible (unless someone just randomly decided, all of a sudden, that a barren land filled with open-pit mines actually represents "natural beauty" from now on - which actually wouldn't be that surprising at all in this time and age, when historical definitions are getting rewritten almost on a daily basis... Though that is quite a different topic already).

Sigh… I give up. You “win”…

I never meant to compete with you, only point out that there were alternatives to your assertions

I’ll let you believe what you believe…

It’s good though that you do recognise that is only a game

Eltopiq wrote:

I got logged out somehow

Well I'm glad to see that you've logged back in.

Thanks to all who voted in the last poll,or considered voting but did not. :)
Here is another one. :D

Whallhall wrote:

Thanks to all who voted in the last poll,or considered voting but did not. :)
Here is another one. :D

Zombies.

Askerike wrote:

Zombies.

The Rapture.

Hi it’s whitecliff in disguise, just trying to hide from recruitment telegrams. I know how to turn them off, but I’ll probably leave in a day or two. I just avoided nonexistence by restoring myself. Phew.

The poll brings up an interesting point for me. On one hand, it would be interesting to hear the stories of the final survivors in scenarios when survival is possible. But on the other hand, some would want it to end as quickly as possible so that the feelings of imminent death would quickly be relieved.

Hello, I am new!

The poll can be seen from two different points, if I live at the end of the world I prefer it to be a black hole or a meteorite, because I would not suffer and my death would be quick, but if I do not live at the end of the world I would prefer a nuclear war, since that there would be a trace of our existence and the next intelligent life that would be on earth would investigate us.

For this poll I voted a meteor. It’s all very quick and the suffering is short compared to most other options.

Necochea wrote:

The poll can be seen from two different points, if I live at the end of the world I prefer it to be a black hole or a meteorite, because I would not suffer and my death would be quick, but if I do not live at the end of the world I would prefer a nuclear war, since that there would be a trace of our existence and the next intelligent life that would be on earth would investigate us.

Thats noble of you!

I doubt inteligent earthly life would develop for many hundreds of thousands of years, after humanity is gone, taking most if not all earthly mammals with them,in a nuclear war all would be gone,trough massive explosions and radiation.

Dolphins or whales,in the sea, could have survived, these leave the better claim to sapiency,and development of early civs.

If we are talking of non-terrans.

Probably the alien civilization that reached earth, passed trough that atomic era phase, survived fragmentation into nations, and managed to unify in some way, they would know what happened fairly quickly.

It is exactly the point Michio Kaku makes, the most dangerous phase for a "inteligent" species, is to pass from semi-barbarism/civilization type 0, to civilization type 1,mastery over itself (this I add) and harnessing of its planetary power. These civilizations control earthquakes, the weather, volcanoes, they have cities on the ocean, anything planetary, they control.

Unlike Michio Kaku a optimist, I think, the signs are very small, of reaching civilization type 1, in the forseable future,maybe in 200 years if we manage to survive the divergence into nations,our tribalisms,and the political crap, these nations/tribes generate from time to time.

I voted for the new ice age because I badly want to snow in my place

Whallhall wrote:

Thats noble of you!

I doubt inteligent earthly life would develop for many hundreds of thousands of years, after humanity is gone, taking most if not all earthly mammals with them,in a nuclear war all would be gone,trough massive explosions and radiation.

Dolphins or whales,in the sea, could have survived, these leave the better claim to sapiency,and development of early civs.

If we are talking of non-terrans.

Probably the alien civilization that reached earth, passed trough that atomic era phase, survived fragmentation into nations, and managed to unify in some way, they would know what happened fairly quickly.

It is exactly the point Michio Kaku makes, the most dangerous phase for a "inteligent" species, is to pass from semi-barbarism/civilization type 0, to civilization type 1,mastery over itself (this I add) and harnessing of its planetary power. These civilizations control earthquakes, the weather, volcanoes, they have cities on the ocean, anything planetary, they control.

Unlike Michio Kaku a optimist, I think, the signs are very small, of reaching civilization type 1, in the forseable future,maybe in 200 years if we manage to survive the divergence into nations,our tribalisms,and the political crap, these nations/tribes generate from time to time.

Wow!, I had not thought of it that way, good observation, very good

One: why are y’all’s names so creative??
Two: I think my country is running pretty smoothly just got to top 5% in safety!

Despair the despair wrote:

One: why are y’all’s names so creative??
Two: I think my country is running pretty smoothly just got to top 5% in safety!

If you have problems about the name of your country, don't worry, it happens to me too. You can use cities of your country as a reference and be inspired by the name to make yours, that's what I did

I don't know if you know but there is a page that tells you the result of each problem, the link is http://www.mwq.dds.nl/ns/results/

With that page you can develop your country faster

Despair the despair wrote:

One: why are y’all’s names so creative??
Two: I think my country is running pretty smoothly just got to top 5% in safety!

You have such a nice nation :)

Sup everyone