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The Bureaudirectic Union of Jutsa I can't even remember the stinking name. *facepalms* Updated; 2 truths 1 lie xd Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and 1 otherGarbelia |
The Bureaudirectic Union of Jutsa I don't know enough about Google Street View but I'm going to guess #2. Edit: I'm so sorry, I am the worst double-poster. Effazio, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Terrabod, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
Too late, we're executing you Murmuria, Jutsa, Ownzone, Atsvea, and 7 othersLord Dominator, Terrabod, Simbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and Difinbelk |
The Rustling Leaves of New Kvenland You're all wrong! Ahahaha! 1 was the lie all along! I'm Swedish-American, but descended from like, fishers from Gothenburg, I think. No royal blood, and thank God for that, how embarrassing Had grizzly bear meat while visiting Alaska and pet an echinda at the San Diego Zoo (they were showing it off and I was in the right place at the right time). Bear meat is pretty bad, by the way, maybe 4/10 from me, gamey and tasteless I really like this! Gonna guess Somali was an inspiration? The gender and formality rules sound fun, and the phonology is really unique to my ear. If you ever write down a grammar I'd love to read it Jutsa, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Bureaudirectic Union of Jutsa Woah - really late seeing this but uh, you got any bits of this conlang up online anywhere? (and if so could I have a link? :D) Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Middle Barael, and 2 othersNation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Most Serene Eco-Republic of Middle Barael Not yet. I'm still only in the initial stages and its my first conlang, but hopefully when I have it more developed I'll write a factbook on it for NS (it's going to be the language of the ancient Native Baraelan civilizations whose ruins are now beginning to be excavated). I did though write a short poem in the language today: This poem is kind of emblematic of the kind of philosophical, somewhat-dark poetry of this language/culture. The idea that everything that aids one group also harms another, and the yin-yang sort of dualism that follows, is very important to their philosophy. They essentially believed that since all active actions were near zero-sum, therefore we must focus on simply following the Wənəməl (lit. "the way of flowing", very similar to the Dao) and living life as it passes, rather than focusing on action and justice. Sort of a blend of Daoism and Epicureanism, except a bit more existentialist and anti-action. Thanks! I actually was influenced mainly by Hebrew (aside from English), especially with the triconsonantal roots. I also got the idea for 3 genders (male, female, and neuter/nonbinary) from Latin, and the philosophy of this Native Baraelan culture was influenced by Daoism. Finally, some of the sounds I chose for my language, such as the heavy-handed use of /ʃ/ and /χ/, were influenced by Arabic and other Middle Eastern languages. Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Myordas, Nation of ecologists, and 1 otherGarbelia |
The Federated Bailiwicks of Verdant Haven I suppose I'll join the "Two Truths and a Lie" we've got going on, so here are three statements revolving around the numbers three, two, and one! 1) I have personally handled a 1933 Saint-Gaudens double eagle - one of the world's rarest and most valuable coins - of which only 3 legally exist: 2 in the Smithsonian and 1 in private hands. Murmuria, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
That language looks like Azeri language. My language look like this: [note that the "c" is pronouced as "ts" and "x" is pronounced as "kh". The language is based on Malagasy with some leter sounds based in Armenian, accent sounds like Filipino. (cause you know, Armenian refugees in Myordas), old Myordan has o with slash but it was removed at 2020. It was supposed to be the letter "u".] Alcantaria, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Northern Wood, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Taiga Folk of Northern Wood Thanks for the recommendation of SVGs. I've never really known the difference of various file types. May I ask how exactly you go about "separating the parts" of the SVG image? Wikimedia Commons is an actual treasure. I greatly appreciate everyone who contributes. Forest brought to you by McDonalds Good to know of others still making it up as they go :P And I can easily understand how it could extend into a hobby outside of the game -- it's just so much fun and so rewarding to create images. Gives something of a glimpse at what it's like for folks with drawing talent. Calenmor, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 4 othersTerrabod, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
only several parts, not a single one whole Jutsa, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
To reuse the example of the emblem of China: When I downloaded and opened the .svg file of the emblem on inkscape, it was made of several different parts (Like, there was a red background circle, and in front of it there were the 4 stars and below it the gear and red flag and etc) on top of each other to make the final image. I just individually deleted the parts I didn't need (the stars, gear, red flag etc..) and recolored the part I did want to use (the ring of grain). Since that emblem specifically is quite complex and uses a lot of gradients (which convert to bitmap hates), it was a lot easier to download the actual file and pick out the part I wanted and delete the rest. This is actually even better to do on inkscape than on adobe illustrator with files from wikimedia commons, because 99% of them were already made on inkscape to begin with. Most of the time I don't need something so specific like a perfectly circular ring of grain, so I just download something from this page instead https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_coat_of_arms_elements. IIRC the wreath on Garbelia's flag was taken from there, but I might be wrong. EDIT: I was wrong, Garbelia's flag uses a piece of the emblem of communist albania, so it's actually another example of me stealing art assets from communist nations. Calenmor, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Green Otters' State of Garbelia Art is pretty much just stealing stuff you're allowed to use. I am pretty decent at drawing pixel cats (if I'm allowed to compliment my art), but only because I traced a photo of one that was free to use. 100% original art is very rare, especially online, where you are using tools made by others. Calenmor, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Middle Barael, and 2 othersNation of ecologists, and The most serene republicans |
My "strategy" when doing this previously was to be intentionally vague about details in order to throw people off. Well, the exact opposite also works, but requires more effort. I suspect (more like, hoping) 93% of the written statement here is correct, with an invalid specific detail as the determiner. Perhaps you handled said coin in a museum located outside your country (US?). Maybe you only went a third of the way up that mountain instead of summited. Or possibly, John Barton's class wasn't the one you participated, but actually the one by a different award-winning director. I'm not even going to guess. I'm just curious... Murmuria, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 4 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and The most serene republicans |
I should have rather said that I'm not so much making maps (although that's what you'd call the physical sheets of paper that they're on), but rather that my process is to try to mimic how our civilization on earth itself unfolded. To me, the idea is to start with the physical world itself, where are the continents, islands, ocean currents, patterns of precipitation, distribution of minerals, soil types, elevation, etc. etc., which itself then is the stage that the human (or fantasy, but I'm boring in that I would usually stick to earth-copies) world can unfold on. So to me, the process is less like, "okay, I want a big, monolithic China-like empire here, with natural borders in these directions," and more like, "okay, given this physical world with these different continents, archipelagoes, etc., what kinds of human settlement, trade routes, types of states, etc. are likely to be where?" Obviously then I would tweak things (e.g. actually, let's get rid of that island, or let's extend this mountain range so that the desert takes up more of this landmass), but to me, the natural part always had to come first, if only in rough contours. I wonder if such a thing exists as you might call "Earth simulator" or "planet simulator," in the sense that you could start with a blank earth-sized planet with oceans, and then build landmasses and add elevations, and then the simulator would model (in somewhat rough terms, admittedly), what the climate and weather patterns would be like based on air currents and latitude and everything. So you could then mess with things (what if this mountain range were twice as high?) or (what if the continental shelf extended way out, so the ocean currents were farther offshore?) and stuff like that. Don't get me wrong, I entirely see your perspective for narrative or traditional world building purposes, wherein you have the concepts of the human civilizations and then build a world to accommodate the elements of the story or world that you want, but to me, a major element of the project would be to start out with an untouched, natural world that was designed as an end in itself, and then the story would come in by looking at the canvas of the world and saying, "okay, where would organized states first develop?" "where would the cities eventually go?" "where are the extractable resources for an industrial state?" "which areas are likely to be fertile agricultural regions?" etc. etc. By the way, your series of maps and your dedication to fleshing out the Bailiwicks is amazing. I wish I had the focus and determination to sit down and to even make a general map for Ruinenlust. I have ideas, but for lack of an ability to make a nice map on the computer, it never gets past the rough physical paper stage. :-/ Damn, that's awesome. I guess that's the sort of path one would follow to get into doing it. I found your explanation to be very good, haha, even if it's beyond my time and wherewithal to follow. There's always too much to do, and I feel like when I settle into something for too long that I'm "wasting time" that "should really be spent doing ___." But that's amazing. I think you're right that practicing is what makes things better and more efficient. When I think of how I would struggle to put lessons together during my first year teaching, compared to how now I can sit down for two hours and crank out assignments and handouts and activities for a class for three weeks, it really puts into perspective how doing it is itself the goal, because that only leads you to the enabling of further and better things. Thanks for the tutorial! ;-) Calenmor, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 8 othersUan aa Boa, Terrabod, Lura, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Difinbelk, and The most serene republicans |
The Federative Republic of Atsvea Well besides identity, timezone, written language, China isn't much of a monolith either... "mimic how our civilization on earth itself unfolded" agree 100%. That's why I don't have much interest in factbooks. Its hard to make it sound realistic from limited experience. It's like the perfect thing to apply game theory on. Now if only Civ wasn't so buggy... Pretty sure you're describing my perfect strategy game... Not sure if it does exist though. There would be hella lot of variables. But I have to sate my thirst for strategy somehow. Terra Nil at least has the earth shaping down... never played age of empires But yeah, top down worldbuilding is still insane. It's just that I want to love turbulent flow more than laminar Calenmor, Mount Seymour, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 5 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Difinbelk, and The most serene republicans |
The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa Dude. Way to make a person feel really old. Thatcher was Prime Minister from 1979 to 1990 - I'm not sure that qualifies as a harsh era in the mid 20th century. Life in the 1980s really wasn't as far removed from today as you make it sound. The life of a teenage boy life involved video games, music, RPGs for those so inclined, football, car envy, exam stress, existential angst and first encounters with alcohol, drugs and your own sexuality. Not so very different. Thatcher's ideas are still very much with us. She won her battles so comprehensively that on most matters the subject was closed. For example, no successful political campaign since has aimed to increase basic taxation or disputed that the private sector is fundamentally beneficial to the country. The greed-is-good philosophy is alive and kicking. David Cameron's government (2010-16) was Thatcherism on steroids, using the 2008 crash as a pretext to begin rolling back public spending with the objective of reaching levels that can only be described as American. Right now Thatcherism is out of government, replaced by a Trumpesque populist nationalism defined by Brexit, but it hasn't gone away. Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 4 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and The most serene republicans |
What I mean is her views were formed not during her term but rather way earlier than that, in other times. As far as I know it (and I may be wrong) she was too conservative for her governing time which once again links it to my point earlier. I might have worded it poorly enough, however I still believe her views were outdated even for late 20th century, not to mention the modern day. I won’t comment on the part of the teenage boy life of the time since it has nothing to do with the topic of Thatcher speaking about adult things to shame :) Calenmor, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa Well, I've no information on when Thatcher formed her social or political views. I don't think she can be described as too conservative for her time. Despite being leader of the Conservative party she was in no sense conservative. Other elements of that party have often been easy to caricature in terms of not rocking the boat of social hierarchy, quiet respectability and cricket on the village green. Her government was a full frontal assault on previous norms. The collapse of heavy industry was painful medicine to be stoicly taken, and unemployed steel workers could either move to Milton Keynes to work in a call-centre or just suck it up. Natural monopolies were broken up and the pieces privatised. Influence held by institutions such as the church, the unions and the media was seen as a challenge to be defeated. Social housing and other public assets were sold at knock-down prices on the grounds that private ownership is inherently better than public. Traditional value was widely supplanted by monetary value. Assess it how you will - she has many admirers to this day - but it was deeply radical and absolutely not the imposition of the values of the 1940s, 50s and 60s. Calenmor, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 4 othersLord Dominator, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
The Populgoverne of Alcantaria suno pona! mi pilin pona mute tan ni: sina ken toki e toki pona. nimi mi pi toki pona li jan Seli / Selijo. I see you are not running out of grammatical features in your conlang XD. Wow, I can only eat broccoli and cauliflower if they are boiled or grilled. You sure have strong teeth with all those raw carrots and broccoli XD Edit: I forgot about the avoidance of double-posting, my bad. Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Terrabod, and 3 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia |
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The Incorporated States of Terrabod Is there anywhere you'd want to visit during lockdown so you could just be there by yourself? I'd love to go to the Museum of Egyptian Antiquities in Cairo. I've never been before but I think it'd be great to be able to take the time to look at everything and read everything without the crowds. Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, The void territories, and 5 othersSimbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and Seonhan |
Which, however, doesn't go against what I said about her views being outdated (which was the original idea of my first reply). Okay, I could be wrong with the iffy term of mid 20th century and this was misleading for the reader, I admit. But still her quote needs to be taken with consideration of completely different era. It would be really sad if your realm [possibly] had no proper difference between "then" and "now", if you ask me. But there is nothing in common with the time you described comparing to modern day and modern life views, including the shaming of people using public transport. People do become openminded and this is a good sign of a good change. Calenmor, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Middle Barael, and 1 otherNation of ecologists |
The Lovely Realm of Democratic Republic of Cacusia Hiya everyone! I just moved here from the DSA. This seems like a lovely region Effazio, Verdant Haven, New Kvenland, Mount Seymour, and 10 othersAtsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Uan aa Boa, Terrabod, Simbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and The most serene republicans |
The Concordant Stratum of The Cypher Nine Welcome to Forest! Glad to have you. Want to introduce yourself? What got you into Nationstates and what is important to you? Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Democratic Republic of Cacusia, Lord Dominator, and 5 othersSimbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and The most serene republicans |
The Lovely Realm of Democratic Republic of Cacusia Sure! I discovered nation states back in 2016. I thought it was a great idea so I’ve been playing ever since. I started in Norrland, a small now inactive region where I resided for a few years before moving to the DSA. I was in the DSA for a little over a year, and now I’m here! As for what’s important to me in NS is having good conversation, quietly going through issues and having fun in general. This seemed like a nice region where I think I can do all those things. Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 6 othersUan aa Boa, Simbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and The most serene republicans |